Week 10 Gameday Thread- Lions @Commaanders

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

agree

but i think we can all agree the drafting has not been out this world to date


outside of JD5, which my mom could ahve made that pick, who is a really good contributor from a AP draft class on our current roster?

#0 stock is way down, so not him

We’re not even to the point where the year 1 draft can be properly graded.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

We’re not even to the point where the year 1 draft can be properly graded.

fair

but i can also be halfway through a final exam in school that i didn't study for and know i am going to bomb it ; i mean technically it has not been properly graded at that point but the future results are obvious....

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

fair

but i can also be halfway through a final exam in school that i didn't study for and know i am going to bomb it ; i mean technically it has not been properly graded at that point but the future results are obvious....

It would be more fair to say they aced the first big exam of the semester last season, this year they bombed exam #2 and everyone is ready to drop out of school.

Also fair to say we need 4-5 years of Peters to know what we have for sure.

It was silly to crown him last year and it’s equally silly to think we now need to blow it all up.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

It would be more fair to say they aced the first big exam of the semester last season, this year they bombed exam #2 and everyone is ready to drop out of school.

Also fair to say we need 4-5 years of Peters to know what we have for sure.

It was silly to crown him last year and it’s equally silly to think we now need to blow it all up.

i never argued to get rid of him

i said whitt needs to go

but i will stand by his draft classes have been sus

i think that is moe then fair to say

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

i never argued to get rid of him

i said whitt needs to go

but i will stand by his draft classes have been sus

i think that is moe then fair to say

Generally a 30% hit rate is a good draft, meaning they are starters at the very least

Of the 9 picks last year Daniels and Sainistril are hits, Coleman and McCaffery have been contributors, Sinnott and Macgee have started to see more playing time, and the rest are up in the air.

I think another full season is needed to fairly judge this class, but so far is it really that “sus”?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Generally a 30% hit rate is a good draft, meaning they are starters at the very least

Of the 9 picks last year Daniels and Sainistril are hits, Coleman and McCaffery have been contributors, Sinnott and Macgee have started to see more playing time, and the rest are up in the air.

I think another full season is needed to fairly judge this class, but so far is it really that “sus”?

Sainristil has been TERRIBLE this year. I don't consider him a hit. 92nd out of 106 in PFF. But even just the eye test, he is getting smoked constantly.

I still agree that they should all get one more season, including him, before making any long-term decisions.

But the 2024 class is not looking very good imo.

I'm curious to know if Kliff just doesn't like Sinnott or if the whole staff just doesn't think he is ready to play. We need athletes on the field and he is by far the best one in the TE room. Would really like to see him get more balls thrown his way.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Sainristil has been TERRIBLE this year. I don't consider him a hit. 92nd out of 106 in PFF. But even just the eye test, he is getting smoked constantly.

I still agree that they should all get one more season, including him, before making any long-term decisions.

But the 2024 class is not looking very good imo.

I'm curious to know if Kliff just doesn't like Sinnott or if the whole staff just doesn't think he is ready to play. We need athletes on the field and he is by far the best one in the TE room. Would really like to see him get more balls thrown his way.

The thing w/ Sinnott makes zero sense. At this point he should be playing full time. The season is over. Put him out there. If he is not on Sun that is a real bad sign. I've seen enough of Ertz. He's been ok but you have a 2nd round draft pick in his 2nd year, he rarely plays and the team sucks.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Sainristil has been TERRIBLE this year. I don't consider him a hit. 92nd out of 106 in PFF. But even just the eye test, he is getting smoked constantly.

I still agree that they should all get one more season, including him, before making any long-term decisions.

But the 2024 class is not looking very good imo.

I'm curious to know if Kliff just doesn't like Sinnott or if the whole staff just doesn't think he is ready to play. We need athletes on the field and he is by far the best one in the TE room. Would really like to see him get more balls thrown his way.

Yeah I don’t care, MS can play. He was absolutely a hit last year. Tough to shine in a dogshit scheme when your job depends so much on everyone around you.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

We’re not even to the point where the year 1 draft can be properly graded.

Totally disagree w/ that. It's year two and your 2024 drafted players, especially the higher picks need to show something. They SHOULD be showing something.

Sainristil, Newton, Coleman, Luke and Sinnott are basically giving you nothing. That's 5 high draft picks from last year that are not helping your team.

Luke was ok but you can find that guy anywhere. He's just a JAG. Newton? Nothing. Sinnott? Nothing. Coleman? Very little. Sainristil has totally gone in the toilet.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Totally disagree w/ that. It's year two and your 2024 drafted players, especially the higher picks need to show something. They SHOULD be showing something.

Sainristil, Newton, Coleman, Luke and Sinnott are basically giving you nothing. That's 5 high draft picks from last year that are not helping your team.

Luke was ok but you can find that guy anywhere. He's just a JAG. Newton? Nothing. Sinnott? Nothing. Coleman? Very little. Sainristil has totally gone in the toilet.

Any reasonable football person will say you have to give a draft 3 years. I’m fine with having a discussion this time next year. You’re certainly going glass half empty right now, things could look a lot different next year.

McCaffery has been great on special teams, Coleman started 12 games as a rookie. Sainistril has been a victim of a bad defensive scheme.

It’s too early to write these guys off.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

We’re not even to the point where the year 1 draft can be properly graded.

This.


People need to understand the draft is a crap shoot at best, which is why you need all the picks you can get. Not all drafts are equal in talent either. That said, it's kinda rare that rookies come in and make breaking impacts in the game right away. Some do, most don't.