The 2nd Amendment Thread

[MTK]

This thread is literally the definition of pissing in the wind. No meaningful changes are in the pipeline and likely never will be. Not sure what we're even arguing about, polls show that the majority of Americans are on the same page with tighter gun control yet lawmakers never make it happen.

[Giantone]

IMHO (all this is ) . It's a combination of more of everything. Yes given them tough sentencing and no parole. Yet while in there the training for them once they are out should be better and definitely mandatory school for those without HS diplomas. Combine with tighter measures on guns and licensing . Should everyone have a right to a gun ...NO, just no. Some don't deserver the right .Once you serve criminal time you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun or have possession of one. You forfeit that right by committing the crime . Yes , I believe in the death penalty and for murder one ,it's death. Right now there is no fear of Police or prison .

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

IMHO (all this is ) . It's a combination of more of everything. Yes given them tough sentencing and no parole. Yet while in there the training for them once they are out should be better and definitely mandatory school for those without HS diplomas. Combine with tighter measures on guns and licensing . Should everyone have a right to a gun ...NO, just no. Some don't deserver the right .Once you serve criminal time you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun or have possession of one. You forfeit that right by committing the crime . Yes , I believe in the death penalty and for murder one ,it's death. Right now there is no fear of Police or prison .

Oh there's plenty of fear of the police right now, and that's a big part of the problem. It's all fear and no respect.

And sorry but executing people has never been a deterrent for crime.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

Oh there's plenty of fear of the police right now, and that's a big part of the problem. It's all fear and no respect.

And sorry but executing people has never been a deterrent for crime.

Re: Death Penalty - It's always been a deterrent to crime - I challenge you or anyone to point out even one example of anyone who was executed ever committing another crime. (And no I'm not trying to be funny - there are people killed every year by people who were sentenced to life in prison).

[MTK]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Re: Death Penalty - It's always been a deterrent to crime - I challenge you or anyone to point out even one example of anyone who was executed ever committing another crime. (And no I'm not trying to be funny - there are people killed every year by people who were sentenced to life in prison).

A deterrent to others of course.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

This thread is literally the definition of pissing in the wind. No meaningful changes are in the pipeline and likely never will be. Not sure what we're even arguing about, polls show that the majority of Americans are on the same page with tighter gun control yet lawmakers never make it happen.

Because the NRA has every gun owner afraid the government will come get their guns and that has never been suggested(by serious people)

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

This thread is literally the definition of pissing in the wind. No meaningful changes are in the pipeline and likely never will be. Not sure what we're even arguing about, polls show that the majority of Americans are on the same page with tighter gun control yet lawmakers never make it happen.

By that standard (pissing in the wind = no meaningful changes) we ought to just shut down the debating with the enemy portion of the forum.

And honestly, I think the board would be just as well off -or even better off. When it first was opened the US was a different place. Yes, we had crazies from both the left and the right, (remember JoeTheismanFan and our resident bunker expert whose screen name I forget). But there was still a sense of fellowship around the team and most of the ribbing was indeed good natured. But the US, and this board has changed. Now trumpists are called cultists, blm followers are trashed with hate, both sides have positions so tightly locked in granite that there is no point in these discussions, it's all just pissing in the wind and hoping the other side is downwind.

As for this thread, I actually felt like there was decent constructive dialogue about how to find the balance of concerns and while, no we aren't changing the political equation, we were (mostly) discussing our differences with civility.