Cousins has arrived

[punch it in]

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[DYoungJelly]

BPA every pick, every round.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

BPA every pick, every round.

I'm not necessarily a BPA proponent yet, based on where we are right now as a team, that might be the way to go in this draft. Any pressing needs could be addressed in FA prior to the draft.

[metalskins]

Man, I tell you, in years past, while our offense was on the field, I'd be watching with clinched butt cheeks and waiting for the first reason to throw out my choice of four letter words. Almost on cue, the QB overthrows a wide open receiver, or throws a pick, the running back fumbles, or a big play is called back because of a holding penalty, or something to kill my buzz.

It's such a welcome change to watch cap'n Kirk play! I haven't had this much confidence in our offense since Mark Rypien's '91 season with the 'skins.

[Schneed10]

I'm going to just throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks.

Scenario: let's say negotiations don't go well with Cousins, his agent's demands are outrageous, so McCloughan slaps the franchise tag on him.

Remember, players under the franchise tag can sign offer sheets elsewhere. The Redskins would then have the option to match the offer sheet or let him go and take two first round picks in return.

Let's say he signs that offer sheet. Would you take the picks, or match the deal? Obviously your answer might be 'depends on how much the offer sheet is for'. Feel free to set a limit.

I know what I would do but curious to hear. And for the record I don't think the negotiations ever get to this stage. But for shits and giggles, as they say.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm going to just throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks.

Scenario: let's say negotiations don't go well with Cousins, his agent's demands are outrageous, so McCloughan slaps the franchise tag on him.

Remember, players under the franchise tag can sign offer sheets elsewhere. The Redskins would then have the option to match the offer sheet or let him go and take two first round picks in return.

Let's say he signs that offer sheet. Would you take the picks, or match the deal? Obviously your answer might be 'depends on how much the offer sheet is for'. Feel free to set a limit.

I know what I would do but curious to hear. And for the record I don't think the negotiations ever get to this stage. But for shits and giggles, as they say.

Match the deal if it is in the ball park.

QB is the most important position on any team.

The fair market value for a decent QB has gone through the roof over the past few years. It's a QB league.

Pay the man his money, and enjoy the stability that comes with having a QB who can win.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm going to just throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks.

Scenario: let's say negotiations don't go well with Cousins, his agent's demands are outrageous, so McCloughan slaps the franchise tag on him.

Remember, players under the franchise tag can sign offer sheets elsewhere. The Redskins would then have the option to match the offer sheet or let him go and take two first round picks in return.

Let's say he signs that offer sheet. Would you take the picks, or match the deal? Obviously your answer might be 'depends on how much the offer sheet is for'. Feel free to set a limit.

I know what I would do but curious to hear. And for the record I don't think the negotiations ever get to this stage. But for shits and giggles, as they say.

This could have been a possibility if Mike Shanahan got the SF job.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

...Let's say he signs that offer sheet. Would you take the picks, or match the deal? Obviously your answer might be 'depends on how much the offer sheet is for'. Feel free to set a limit....

For shits and giggles....2 first round picks.....tough to walk away from. A team can change their fortunes with 2 first round picks. Especially since we have Scott calling the shots now when it comes to the draft.

By the same token, a potential franchise QB is tough to walk away from.

But with 2 first round picks you could theoretically draft another potential franchise QB and add another premiere talent...say a #1 WR or NT or DL.

In a vacuum I would take the picks.

But after what this team has been through at the QB position and the difficulty/uncertainty with Jay (or any HC really) with finding and grooming a QB and the lack of having a viable development QB on the roster if Kirk left.....despite wanting those picks I would have to match the deal.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

For shits and giggles....2 first round picks.....tough to walk away from. A team can change their fortunes with 2 first round picks. Especially since we have Scott calling the shots now when it comes to the draft.

By the same token, a potential franchise QB is tough to walk away from.

But with 2 first round picks you could theoretically draft another potential franchise QB and add another premiere talent...say a #1 WR or NT or DL.

In a vacuum I would take the picks.

But after what this team has been through at the QB position and the difficulty/uncertainty with Jay (or any HC really) with finding and grooming a QB and the lack of having a viable development QB on the roster if Kirk left.....despite wanting those picks I would have to match the deal.

Umm yea.

Who is going to be the QB of the Rams next year?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Umm yea.

Who is going to be the QB of the Rams next year?

Well to be fair they did have Sam Bradford.


[/sarc]

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by credskinsrule

well to be fair they did have sam bradford.


[/sarc]

hah!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm going to just throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks.



Scenario: let's say negotiations don't go well with Cousins, his agent's demands are outrageous, so McCloughan slaps the franchise tag on him.



Remember, players under the franchise tag can sign offer sheets elsewhere. The Redskins would then have the option to match the offer sheet or let him go and take two first round picks in return.



Let's say he signs that offer sheet. Would you take the picks, or match the deal? Obviously your answer might be 'depends on how much the offer sheet is for'. Feel free to set a limit.



I know what I would do but curious to hear. And for the record I don't think the negotiations ever get to this stage. But for shits and giggles, as they say.

Sign him at all costs. We have a full compliment of our own draft picks, and QB is waaaay too important to mess around with. Im not risking what we have going on here for a few million either way.

[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Sign him at all costs. We have a full compliment of our own draft picks, and QB is waaaay too important to mess around with. Im not risking what we have going on here for a few million either way.

well said.

Kirk has shown enough growth in just this past year to warrant the long term commitment.

I have faith in the new stewardship running the organization...it will get done & will be fair for both sides.

Then we can start focusing on adding the other cast members around him.

[That Guy]

it'd be hard to say "let's start over" after not having a QB for most of the last 15 years. if it's 20m+ per year you might have to consider it, but man, that'd be rough.

[Schneed10]

Yeah just something interesting to think about. I think there's no way it gets to that stage, I think Cousins really wants to be here and McCloughan and Gruden really want him here.

Cousins just wants to make sure that he feels 'wanted' by the Redskins, so he'll be looking for a serious opening offer ($12M a year will not convey 'wanted'). If he gets it, the negotiation will go quick. He really doesn't strike me as the type to haggle over an extra $1M and be willing to push the negotiations to hardball phase to get it.

I think they strike a deal well before we get to the franchise tag decision.