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Old 04-09-2015, 11:41 PM   #1
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Surprised nobody has talked about the Iran-Nuclear deal. I know the GOP and Netanyahu are pissed, but that's because they don't get to blow up any brown people on this deal.

I'll give the white house props on trolling Netanyahu as well with this tweet:







People need to realize that it isn't just Obama that wanted this deal. Several other countries have agreed upon this too.
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Old 04-10-2015, 09:45 AM   #2
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Surprised nobody has talked about the Iran-Nuclear deal. I know the GOP and Netanyahu are pissed, but that's because they don't get to blow up any brown people on this deal.

I'll give the white house props on trolling Netanyahu as well with this tweet:







People need to realize that it isn't just Obama that wanted this deal. Several other countries have agreed upon this too.
The deal is interesting. Worth a shot since so far the Iranians appear to be doing what they want anyways.

Just hope they don't keep being that way once the deal is signed. Correct me if wrong, but isn't a major fear that Iran will build up their infrastructure like a first world nuclear power more CAPABLE of making weapons on short notice, like Japan could do. So if there's any excuse Iran could break the treaty and produce weapons as quickly as if they had never stopped the development they are doing now?
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The deal is interesting. Worth a shot since so far the Iranians appear to be doing what they want anyways.

Just hope they don't keep being that way once the deal is signed. Correct me if wrong, but isn't a major fear that Iran will build up their infrastructure like a first world nuclear power more CAPABLE of making weapons on short notice, like Japan could do. So if there's any excuse Iran could break the treaty and produce weapons as quickly as if they had never stopped the development they are doing now?
Well, seeing as they'll have inspectors crawling up their ass, I doubt this seriously. Even if this did happen, Iran knows it would end up in the deal being nullified and military strikes happening. Iran is doing this so it can kick start it's economy. This alone is why Israel wants to stop Iran. It isn't about nuclear weapons because his own Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran's capability. Netanyahu (and Saudi Arabia)doesn't want Iran becoming a economic force in the region. This is what this has been about the entire time. Economics.
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Well, seeing as they'll have inspectors crawling up their ass, I doubt this seriously. Even if this did happen, Iran knows it would end up in the deal being nullified and military strikes happening. Iran is doing this so it can kick start it's economy. This alone is why Israel wants to stop Iran. It isn't about nuclear weapons because his own Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran's capability. Netanyahu (and Saudi Arabia)doesn't want Iran becoming a economic force in the region. This is what this has been about the entire time. Economics.
I would think if it were about economics, sanctions would have driven Iran to agree to dismantle their nuke program, to haul stuff off like Libya rather than just put it in storage.

I heard energy production for Iran would be helped a lot by nuke plants, but they could just build more refineries for that.
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Well, seeing as they'll have inspectors crawling up their ass, I doubt this seriously. Even if this did happen, Iran knows it would end up in the deal being nullified and military strikes happening. Iran is doing this so it can kick start it's economy. This alone is why Israel wants to stop Iran. It isn't about nuclear weapons because his own Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran's capability. Netanyahu (and Saudi Arabia)doesn't want Iran becoming a economic force in the region. This is what this has been about the entire time. Economics.
UN inspectors crawling up a closed society's ass...

Iran knows what would happen if the did produce a bomb...

Pretty funny stuff.
The outline of the outline of what might be agreed to already gives Iran the ability to put places off limits to inspectors so you can bet any ratifiable treaty will have at least some loopholes that Iran will take advantage of.

Iran knows what North Korea, Israel, Pakistan and India know, which is if they produce nuclear bombs no country is going to make them give it back.

All that said Iran doesn't want war with us, just like China and Russia don't, what they eachdo want is to control their region(s), and if we get in the way of that then they may decide to see exactly how much we are willing to give up to maintain influence.

Personally, Pres. Obama comes off much like Neville Chamberlain before WWII, or Wilson after WWI. So intent on denying other countries real political and cultural natures, in order to be seen as bringing peace to the globe, that they sign bad/dumb treaties and leave the world a more unstable place.



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UN inspectors crawling up a closed society's ass...

Iran knows what would happen if the did produce a bomb...

Pretty funny stuff.
The outline of the outline of what might be agreed to already gives Iran the ability to put places off limits to inspectors so you can bet any ratifiable treaty will have at least some loopholes that Iran will take advantage of.

Iran knows what North Korea, Israel, Pakistan and India know, which is if they produce nuclear bombs no country is going to make them give it back.

All that said Iran doesn't want war with us, just like China and Russia don't, what they eachdo want is to control their region(s), and if we get in the way of that then they may decide to see exactly how much we are willing to give up to maintain influence.

Personally, Pres. Obama comes off much like Neville Chamberlain before WWII, or Wilson after WWI. So intent on denying other countries real political and cultural natures, in order to be seen as bringing peace to the globe, that they sign bad/dumb treaties and leave the world a more unstable place.



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Well I'm thinking that Iran sees that giving up nukes didn't work out well for the leaders of Ukraine and Libya. Course if the Iranians do care about economics, maybe tough enough sanctions to turn them into North Korea would be a deterrent? It would be nice to get agreement from the EU and Russia to do that if needed, if this is an option.
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