2014 NFL Schedule

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think that assumption would be right for about 80% of the teams on our schedule as well.

True but with this team I am leaning more toward the 6 than the 9 wins. There's just too many question marks and under performers to think this team can be over .500.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

True but with this team I am leaning more toward the 6 than the 9 wins. There's just too many question marks and under performers to think this team can be over .500.

Our advantage is playing in a fairly mediocre division in the east. I think if you look just as the team's talent and depth, I think it exceeds the Cowboys and the Giants. Its comparable to Philly, and I give Philly a slight advantage. There is no reason to think we couldnt win the division if the defense plays better. Our Special teams will be better period. Coaching to me is our question mark. This team won the division 2 years ago, we can certainly finish over .500.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Our advantage is playing in a fairly mediocre division in the east. I think if you look just as the team's talent and depth, I think it exceeds the Cowboys and the Giants. Its comparable to Philly, and I give Philly a slight advantage. There is no reason to think we couldnt win the division if the defense plays better. Our Special teams will be better period. Coaching to me is our question mark. This team won the division 2 years ago, we can certainly finish over .500.

Its not a mediocre division its a lousy division and that definitely helps. Coaching is a huge question mark as is QB. What RG3 shows up this year? If its rookie year RG3 then I do think this team will finish above .500. If its last season's RG3 then 6 wins might be a stretch.

I really think in a lot of ways this is a make or break year for RG3. The injury is behind him and the knee brace is off, and its his 3rd year in the league, there are no more excuses. If, God forbid, he has another year like he did last year then it opens up a whole can of worms about him being a bust and the Skins gave away their future for a bust a QB and if there's one thing this team doesnt need its opening up another can of worms.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

Its not a mediocre division its a lousy division and that definitely helps. Coaching is a huge question mark as is QB. What RG3 shows up this year? If its rookie year RG3 then I do think this team will finish above .500. If its last season's RG3 then 6 wins might be a stretch.

I really think in a lot of ways this is a make or break year for RG3. The injury is behind him and the knee brace is off, and its his 3rd year in the league, there are no more excuses. If, God forbid, he has another year like he did last year then it opens up a whole can of worms about him being a bust and the Skins gave away their future for a bust a QB and if there's one thing this team doesnt need its opening up another can of worms.

I just don't get why people think Griffin will have a year like last year (and even if he did, he still was a quality caliber NFL qb, more like 15-20 than top 5-10). Clearly the first 4 games, regardless of hype, he just wasn't ready. And by the time he was, the rest of the team was in dysfunction mode.

I also don't think coaching is near the question mark that some make it out to be. I know it's arena league, but Gruden showed he is capable of managing a whole team effectively in it. We know he can run top NFL offenses, and he has a passion for the game (see Cincy Hard Knocks clip).

Put another way, if this core group, BA-JG-Griffin et all, don't get it done (by that I mean put a top caliber team on the field week in week out) then I don't have any clue how the Skins ever will.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I just don't get why people think Griffin will have a year like last year (and even if he did, he still was a quality caliber NFL qb, more like 15-20 than top 5-10). Clearly the first 4 games, regardless of hype, he just wasn't ready. And by the time he was, the rest of the team was in dysfunction mode.

I also don't think coaching is near the question mark that some make it out to be. I know it's arena league, but Gruden showed he is capable of managing a whole team effectively in it. We know he can run top NFL offenses, and he has a passion for the game (see Cincy Hard Knocks clip).

Put another way, if this core group, BA-JG-Griffin et all, don't get it done (by that I mean put a top caliber team on the field week in week out) then I don't have any clue how the Skins ever will.

Let's be real. Much of that production from RGIII last year came in garbage time. Those losses weren't all on him because the defense and special teams sucked some kind of bad. That sad, RGIII has to play much much better for us to break .500 this year.

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I just don't get why people think Griffin will have a year like last year (and even if he did, he still was a quality caliber NFL qb, more like 15-20 than top 5-10). Clearly the first 4 games, regardless of hype, he just wasn't ready. And by the time he was, the rest of the team was in dysfunction mode.

I also don't think coaching is near the question mark that some make it out to be. I know it's arena league, but Gruden showed he is capable of managing a whole team effectively in it. We know he can run top NFL offenses, and he has a passion for the game (see Cincy Hard Knocks clip).

Put another way, if this core group, BA-JG-Griffin et all, don't get it done (by that I mean put a top caliber team on the field week in week out) then I don't have any clue how the Skins ever will.

The Skins didnt give up all those picks and mortgage their future for a 15-20 QB. I'm not sure they gave all that away for a 5-10 QB either. They did it to get a 1-3 QB and right now RG3 isnt close to that. Hopefully he will make progress this year.

I agree that JG knows what to do and how to do it but doing it with the Skins is a totally different matter. Because of the team's meddling owner and prima donna QB and a team that is always on the verge of dysfunction its hard to tell if JG can get it done where other with more experience have failed. Let's hope he's the exception rather than the rule.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

Its not a mediocre division its a lousy division and that definitely helps. Coaching is a huge question mark as is QB. What RG3 shows up this year? If its rookie year RG3 then I do think this team will finish above .500. If its last season's RG3 then 6 wins might be a stretch.

I really think in a lot of ways this is a make or break year for RG3. The injury is behind him and the knee brace is off, and its his 3rd year in the league, there are no more excuses. If, God forbid, he has another year like he did last year then it opens up a whole can of worms about him being a bust and the Skins gave away their future for a bust a QB and if there's one thing this team doesnt need its opening up another can of worms.

Do you think the problem relationship between Shanny and RG3 affected his play? Im beginning to think it was a bigger factor than once thought.

The stuff about meddling owner, Snyder, etc. was a zero contributor to our record last year. That's a classic washington media take thats just bs at this point.

We've seen what a fully healthy RG3 can do; unfortunately we never saw him fully healthy last year. I dont think its make or break year for RG3, but for Hasslet...

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Do you think the problem relationship between Shanny and RG3 affected his play? Im beginning to think it was a bigger factor than once thought.

The stuff about meddling owner, Snyder, etc. was a zero contributor to our record last year. That's a classic washington media take thats just bs at this point.

We've seen what a fully healthy RG3 can do; unfortunately we never saw him fully healthy last year. I dont think its make or break year for RG3, but for Hasslet...

I agree with everything you said, Chico. I think between injury recovery and the boiling over of Shanahan dysfunction, RGIII was doomed to a disappointing year.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Do you think the problem relationship between Shanny and RG3 affected his play? Im beginning to think it was a bigger factor than once thought.

The stuff about meddling owner, Snyder, etc. was a zero contributor to our record last year. That's a classic washington media take thats just bs at this point.

We've seen what a fully healthy RG3 can do; unfortunately we never saw him fully healthy last year. I dont think its make or break year for RG3, but for Hasslet...

I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by irish

I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.

Who's to say, though, that picking Russell Wilson over RGIII would have put the 'skins in a better spot today? Sure, you still keep those other two first round draft picks, but you still have the $36 million dollar cap penalty - which contributed a lot to stunting the growth of this team. I do agree that this is a make or break year for RGIII, but he's given every chance to succeed this year. If he doesn't, we'll know he's a bust. I seriously doubt I see a repeat of last year, but we'll see.

The DJax pick up was a great pick up all around. It doesn't hurt this team that much. If you're going to make a big splash, at least sign a contract that works for both parties - and that happened. I know I tend to see everything in a positive way when it comes to the Redskins, but every move made in this offseason seems to be for the better. Yes, there's a question mark over Jay Gruden, but it's not like he has no head coaching experience in the pros at all.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.

All of these points come from speculation (unfounded) on your part. DJax wasn't a Snyder move, by any account other than the "it must have been Snyder" crowd. The Griffin trade will certainly impact the Skins because he is our qb, and we gave up a lot to get him. But DS being the "driving force" is pure speculation(of the worse kind because it perpetuates an old, and at this point wrong, dialogue about his involvement).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

I think it was a huge factor. I dont think Shanny ever wanted to give away all thos pick to take RG3 (that's where the meddling owner comes in) so deep down RG3 knew he wasnt Shanny's guy and didnt trust him. IMO the Seattle playoff game was the final straw.

DS always was and always will be a huge contributor to the Skins record. The fact that he was the driving force behind the RG3 trade will impact the Skins record (for better or worse) for years to come. The DJax deal has DS written all over it, we will see how that impacts this season.

I agree this is a huge year for Hasslet.

Regardless of who pulled the trigger on the trade, it's over and done with. Shanahan had the final say on all football matters so he obviously signed off on it. New year, new coach, new weapons for RG3, new attitude at Redskin Park, it seems like Brown and Campbell are taking larger roles, we're headed in the right direction.

To me, I don't know how anyone can not be happy about Jackson. He fills two needs, we gave up 0 drafts picks to get him, he seems to abuse us every year and we took away the Eagles best player. I like that gamble and it's worth the risk.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Regardless of who pulled the trigger on the trade, it's over and done with. Shanahan had the final say on all football matters so he obviously signed off on it. New year, new coach, new weapons for RG3, new attitude at Redskin Park, it seems like Brown and Campbell are taking larger roles, we're headed in the right direction.

To me, I don't know how anyone can not be happy about Jackson. He fills two needs, we gave up 0 drafts picks to get him, he seems to abuse us every year and we took away the Eagles best player. I like that gamble and it's worth the risk.

Everyone talks that way but it is not really true. Philly ejected Jackson, no one took him away. Philly was going to lose him to someone else no matter what.