Brunell Starting

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

As SUNRA said somewhere else (can't remember where) if Ramsey with all our new weapons at his disposal (Portis, Moss, Patten, Cooley) could not master the offense this summer when it was at its most basic then how can we entrust him with this offense when it's the regular season and we add features to the offense. And the defenses become less vanilla as well.

I've been on the Brunell Bandwagon since last season. Not because I thought he should be the starter but because I thought he still could bring something to the table, and he could be called upon when needed. Especially if Ramsey couldn't show he could be our starter yet. I still don't feel that Ramsey has shown that.

In retrospect, I think that a.) Gibbs should have probably never declared Ramsey the starter going into training camp, and b.) Brunell should have probably started a game in the preseason with the first team offense

thats more like it. well how often was Portis or Cooley even in the preseason line up? the one game Cooley was in there, i remember a certain Ramsey/Cooley TD..either way, its stands that preseason is no substitute for regular season, as Skins fans, we should know that better than anybody. and 3 possessions was not enough to dismiss all of Ramsey's post-Brunell success last season. This is obviously another faith/gut call from Gibbs, but so was getting Brunell to begin with.

it took Vermeil a while to get his instincts back after his comeback, and even if Brunell magically got younger instead of older, what happens next year? start over yet again? it's hard to see the progress. must be even harder for the team itself.

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Originally Posted by illdefined

thats more like it. well how often was Portis or Cooley even in the preseason line up? the one game Cooley was in there, i remember a certain Ramsey/Cooley TD..either way, its stands that preseason is no substitute for regular season, as Skins fans, we should know that better than anybody. and 3 possessions was not enough to dismiss all of Ramsey's post-Brunell success last season. This is obviously another faith/gut call from Gibbs, but so was getting Brunell to begin with.

it took Vermeil a while to get his instincts back after his comeback, and even if Brunell magically got younger instead of older, what happens next year? start over yet again? it's hard to see the progress. must be even harder for the team itself.

As any coach will tell you, you can't simulate preseason game speed in practice, you cant simulate regular season game speed in the preseason, and you can't simulate postseason speed in the regular season.

Personally I think Gibbs is keeping his word with his QB decisions, when he convinced Brunell to come here he promised him the starters job along with a second rd pick and 42 mil, figuring he would beat out Ramsey, but that didn't happen, Ramsey has clearly outplayed Brunell when the games count.

I keep hearing the point being brought up about last year is over and Brunell has outplayed Ramsey so far this year, and in doing so deserves to start, as if last season never happend. My question to all that hold that opinion is this, what has Gibbs done to warrent the head coaching job of this team? That is if we are not going to include the past, a lowsey preseason and a 9-7 victory over a lowsey Bear team with a rookie QB in his first game.

Forget about his personel decisions which we are starting to see that Portis is anything but a Gibbs type back 50 mil., Brunell is a third string backup at best 42 mil, and we gave up next year's draft for a QB that wont be ready for 2 years, yes thats right the same amount of time it took RYPIEN to mature whom we chose in the 4th rd I do believe, Yes a rookie who doesn't have what it takes when the coach has basically admitted neither QB has done anything to take hold of the QB job, yet we see plenty of rookies who are starting and who have started over the last several years, yet our rookie who we gave up the farm to get can't sniff the field!