Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

Ramsey obviously wasn't cutting it. Personally, I think he made some great throws but for every stellar pass he threw downfield he really killed momentum with poor decision-making that lead to turnovers.

Gibbs knows that we have a great defense and a terrific running game. Ramsey just doesn't fit the scheme because of the turnovers.

you learned all that from the first 3 drives of the season huh? everyone just forgets last season, so did you base that on this pre-season? remember, Brunell had a great pre-season last year too.

[saskin]

I think the first series against the Bears confirmed what Gibbs was suspecting during the entire preseason. Just Ramsey isn't his guy.

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by illdefined

you learned all that from the first 3 drives of the season huh? everyone just forgets last season, so did you base that on this pre-season? remember, Brunell had a great pre-season last year too.

Well, it goes into the preseason as well where Ramsey also didn't protect the ball. Brunell didn't really have a great preseason last year - he just stunk a little less than Ramsey.

I don't know guys, I can see the other side of the argument but I just think Brunell is the right choice for this team right now because he is going to minimize mistakes and let our defense and Portis win games for us.

[SUNRA]

Since Ramsey could not handle the role as the leader of this team, Portis said in an interview, that he would resume the role as the leader and motivate this team. That's what the team needs right now as we embark on busting up this losing streak against those Bums in Irving,TX. I really have no sympathy for a young QB who has had more opportunities than most and just couldn't cut the mustard. I knew this from the beginning. But I remained optimistic.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Since Ramsey could not handle the role as the leader of this team, Portis said in an interview, that he would resume the role as the leader and motivate this team. That's what the team needs right now as we embark on busting up this losing streak against those Bums in Irving,TX. I really have no sympathy for a young QB who has had more opportunities than most and just couldn't cut the mustard. I knew this from the beginning. But I remained optimistic.

And Brunell "cut the mustard?" I think that the only thing Brunell cut was the cheese (yes I know that is corny).

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I really have no sympathy for a young QB who has had more opportunities than most and just couldn't cut the mustard. I knew this from the beginning. But I remained optimistic.

3 drives is more opportunities than most? that has to be a record for the opposite. and yet you have sympathy for an ancient QB who had all the opportunities in the world last year and couldn't cut it, strange.

[illdefined]

quoting myself here

Originally Posted by illdefined

even if Brunell lights up Dallas, those first 3 drives of the season was *not* enough to tell me Ramsey couldn't have either. if i've learned anything, its that pre-season dictates very little, and developing a rhythm only happens in game situations with all your weapons and all the time. this is a surprising loss of his cool, and amounts to Gibbs hitting the panic button.

and why did Brunell deserve 10 games worth of mistakes, but Ramsey less than a quarter?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by illdefined

and why did Brunell deserve 10 games worth of mistakes, but Ramsey less than a quarter?

Easy, Ramsey isn't Gibbs' boy; Brunell unfortunately is.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by illdefined

quoting myself here



and why did Brunell deserve 10 games worth of mistakes, but Ramsey less than a quarter?

Thats all I want to know. I have felt ever since week 2 of last season, that Ramsey was the better QB. I still think that, although Ramsey isnt as good as I thought he was back then. However, I think Gibbs is making a huge mistake turning his back on a guy (which is what he is doing) after 1 quarter. Its not like Brunell went out and threw for 200 yards and 3 tds. He went out and threw for 70 yards and thats it. I think this might cause alot of players in the locker room to really start to question Gibbs.

[saskin]

Gibbs was a lil worried during the preseason and the first drive confirmed his suspicions. And y'all are forgetting Ramsey did get a pretty hard hit.

I don't think Gibbs wants to make last years mistake. As odd as that sounds....he wants to have a stable quarterback.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Redskins88

Gibbs was a lil worried during the preseason and the first drive confirmed his suspicions. And y'all are forgetting Ramsey did get a pretty hard hit.

I don't think Gibbs wants to make last years mistake. As odd as that sounds....he wants to have a stable quarterback.

i'm sorry but the *first drive of the regular season* can't tell anyone anything. on the other hand, 10 games last season could, and it told Gibbs Brunell was stable and to try again? you're right, that does sound odd.

[Hijinx]

One thing no one is talking about in here is how the rest of the team will take this. I thought that I read that Ramsey was very well liked by his teamates. If they think that he got a bum rap and not a full chance, they'll lose repsect for Gibbs. Heck I've lost a bit of repect fo him. Its a damn bad sign if you've got a QB controversy before week 2. As soon as they drafted Campbell I knew this would happen. Remember those Wayne Fronts' Lions where no one would know who of their 3 QBs would start week to week.

Thing is I don't know if we have seen Ramsey's best football, but we have seen the most that Brunell is capable of and it does NOT impress me. I'd say with Brunell the Skins are no better then a 7-9 team.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Brunell doesn't make big mistakes (which is a big plus for any quarterback), but he doesn't move the ball either. I could do the same thing by handing off the ball or taking a knee (and thus not throwing any picks) and not gaining any yards. I don't think any team can abandon the passing game and expect to win many games. I think we've essentially given up on the passing game by handing the ball to Brunell.

[BigSKINBauer]

I am gonna stand by whatever QB is playing. Let it be. Ramsey was not amazing, i want him to start but we all know that Ramsey wasn't as good as brunell during preseason. i can't believe that all that talk about ramsey starting was nothing more than 15 minutes. I think we took Gibbs' words way to serious last year when he said that ramsey was our guy. We can still win, we really can and to say the season is over is just silly, if we beat dallas and brunell does good we will all be praising gibbs as a god again. Please lets not lose our respect for him.

There is no doubt in my mind brunell is smarter than ramsey, only thing is i don't know if he can put the ball where his head tells him to. Remember last time brunell played dallas he picked up over 300 yards

[skinsfan0201]

no offense to anyone, but we will be very lucky if we beat Dallas in Dallas this Monday Night.