Redskins Training Camp Thread 2.0

[MTK]

Seems to me that the head coach has the final say in whether a player stays in a game or not. Sometimes a player needs to be protected from himself, just like Shanahan is doing now with easing him back in.

So how is the Seattle game all on RG3 exactly? If Shanahan is "the boss", he has to share in the responsibility. In fact a case could easily be made that Shanahan is more to blame.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Seems to me that the head coach has the final say in whether a player stays in a game or not. Sometimes a player needs to be protected from himself, just like Shanahan is doing now with easing him back in.

So how is the Seattle game all on RG3 exactly?

It wasn't all on him but he knew more than anyone that he coudln't play, yet he told the coach he could. Gotta pull yourself out in that situation.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It wasn't all on him but he knew more than anyone that he coudln't play, yet he told the coach he could. Gotta pull yourself out in that situation.

You just said it was on him lol

Sorry, that entire Seattle deal is on you RG3, not the coach

Yeah he should have pulled himself just like Cutler. Yeah nobody would have had a problem with that.

Did Jordan ever pull himself from a game? How about Favre when he was getting mauled against the Vikings? That's just not the way these guys are wired. And as a coach of these guys it's awfully hard to make that call. Especially when you've seen them pull games out of their asses in the past even when banged up.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You just said it was on him lol



Yeah he should have pulled himself just like Cutler. Yeah nobody would have had a problem with that.

Did Jordan ever pull himself from a game? How about Favre when he was getting mauled against the Vikings? That's just not the way these guys are wired. And as a coach of these guys it's awfully hard to make that call. Especially when you've seen them pull games out of their asses in the past even when banged up.

Not the game itself, not all on him, but knee gate, yes, I would put that on him. When your knee gets to the point where you can barely walk then yes....pull yourself out of the game. I never saw Jordan or Farve play a game where they were hurting the team because of an injury. The offense didn't get a first down for 2 quarters and he coudln't even plant and throw. Then he says..."well I'm the best option for this team"... and ... "sometimes you have to be a man"...I love his toughness, but in that instaance, it hurt the team.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not the game itself, not all on him, but knee gate, yes, I would put that on him. When your knee gets to the point where you can barely walk then yes....pull yourself out of the game. I never saw Jordan or Farve play a game where they were hurting the team because of an injury. The offense didn't get a first down for 2 quarters and he coudln't even plant and throw. Then he says..."well I'm the best option for this team"... and ... "sometimes you have to be a man"...I love his toughness, but in that instaance, it hurt the team.

Favre played the entire second half of the season with a torn bicep when he played for the Jets... The jets lost 4/5 games even though they started 8-3 and missed the playoffs mainly because Favre was terrible, injured, and couldn't throw.

Jordan rushed himself back against the Celtics, if you remember he broke his foot in the middle of his second season the Bulls barely made the playoffs and all his coaches were telling him to sit out that year because there was a huge chance he was coming back too soon and would re-aggravate it. He didn't listen and he scored 63. But the Bulls lost the series anyway.

The point is players lie about how they feel and push themselves even when coaches tell them not to play. Favre didn't even want his injury reported and Jordan ignored his coaches. Players are going to always lie about being injured, cause if they do not they get torn apart like LT or Cutler.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not the game itself, not all on him, but knee gate, yes, I would put that on him. When your knee gets to the point where you can barely walk then yes....pull yourself out of the game. I never saw Jordan or Farve play a game where they were hurting the team because of an injury. The offense didn't get a first down for 2 quarters and he coudln't even plant and throw. Then he says..."well I'm the best option for this team"... and ... "sometimes you have to be a man"...I love his toughness, but in that instaance, it hurt the team.

The coaches like the millions of watching saw the same thing and they left him in the game.