Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

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Originally Posted by 30gut

By the same token, why is it hard for you to understand that the Kipers and McShays of the world aren't actual scouts.
But, even if they were actual scouts doesn't mean that scouts grade are correct.
All you're doing is listening to the media scouts you like and turning a blind ear to the media scouts you don't agree with (Cosell, Hodge).
Your actually turning a blind ear to some former NFL coaches and one of most well respected GM/scouts in the league in Tony Dungy and Gil Brandt.

False media scouting can lead to the perception of certain players as 'reaches' like Jake Locker even though it much more likely that actual team scouts rated Locker as the No.2 prospect behind Cam Newton all along.
And speaking of Cam Newton, he's a prime example of how wrong media scouting can be.
The media scouts tried to sell Blaine Gabbert as the no.1 QB and did a good job of selling Newton as an unworthy no.1 overall pick.
Good thing the actual scouts for the Panthers did their homework and got it right.
And I have a hard time believing that actual team scouts would rate Andrew Luck ahead of Cam Newton.

Andrew Luck's main attribute that would make him the no.1 prospect is a coachable intangible and many GM's say you draft for tangibles.
The theory is that you can coach/teach a Griffin or a Locker or a Newton to close the gap and equal if not surpass Luck the execution of a pro-style offense (which is his cheif advantage as a prospect) but you can't coach/teach Luck to have thier elite arm strength or elite athleticism.


I believe Luck is the top prospect for many teams because he's a safer pick and teams tend to go the safer route.
But, lets not act like Griffin skillset is so far away from Luck to preclude an honest discussion about which QB is no.1

Keep in mind that McShay and Kiper, as well as many other reporters who cover the draft are asking NFL scouts who the top QB is and many are hard pressed to find anyone in the NFL that would rank RG3 over Luck.

And yes part of it is Luck is the safer pick, a big part of that is durability compared to Griffin as well as experience in a pro style offense.

However we have to remember that 80% of the time throughout his career Luck was going to the line of scrimmage with 3 plays and regularly calling audibles and protections. Griffin did some of that, but not even close to the extent that Luck did and certainly not in a pro style system. To be able to do that in college is HUGE among NFL scouts, but its something few fans seem to know.

By the way I never said there was a huge difference in talent between Luck and RG3, in fact I've gone out of my way not to make any of those sort of declarations.

They're actually relatively close in terms of how NFL scouts are grading them based on what has been reported by the media, but it appears 99% of the time Luck is that top rated prospect. Short of a major injury it's foolish to think that Griffin will overtake Luck anytime soon as the top prospect. Now he'll have probably 10 years to prove he should have been the top pick in the 2012 draft but as of April 2012 with all the games played and all the interviews conducted, it's just not going to happen.