Jay Gruden you are our only hope

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Originally Posted by irish

Spurrier wasnt a joke when he got here but it soon became obvious that his schtick just wasnt going to work in the pros. He had to go.



Shanny made a lot of progress especially in 2012. Then his star QB got hurt and also decided he wasnt "all in" on Shanny's system that had made him so successful in 2012. If RG and the organization had gone "all in" with Shanny I am very sure things wouldnt be as bad as they are now.

My bad - I did not mean he was a joke upon arrival. I gotcha now. I meant when he got here, as in his first year. Poor wording on my part. I totally disagree still about Shanny. Its been pointed out recently that Shanny did not develop RG-3 at all, he just put a system around him that he was capable of running. However not for the long term - defenses were going to learn to stop it the same way they have with kapernick and wilson at this point. Also due to the physical risks it would not have worked long term with Griff. Hell it didnt even work for one season physically that is.
Edit: when I said i dont remember anybody thinking we should keep him around i meant after year one, not after game one - again poor wording on my part.