I'm Going On INDY Radio To Discuss Luck vs RGIII!

[12thMan]

Jake Query, Indy sports radio 1260 WNDE, invited me on his show today around 3:30 pm EST to discuss RGIII vs Luck from a Redskins fan perspective.

I wanted to solicit some points, perspective, and statistics from you guys that would make the case for RGIII.

One caveat. About a month ago I thought Luck was virtually a lock for ROY because the Colts were headed to the playoffs. Since then, the Skins went on a roll and are positioned as well.

Mods, if you want to move this thread elsewhere, feel free. Thanks.

Query & Schultz - SportsRadio 1260 WNDE

[12thMan]

One thing I will mention is that the Colts have beaten only two teams with winning records.

[rbanerjee23]

Turnovers!!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

One thing I will mention is that the Colts have beaten only two teams with winning records.

I don't know that that's such a strong argument

[scowan]

If the Redskins win this week they will win their Division. I know Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck already have their teams in the playoffs, but RGIII, could win the division for his team. Luck and Wilson can't say they have done that. Another case for RGIII, better QB rating, against tougher opponents.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know that that's such a strong argument

So you wouldn't bring that up?

The thinking from Indy's perspective is Luck has brought the franchise back from the dead and turned them around. ButI hear ya.

[12thMan]

Okay, so Jake wants to know what's OUR perception of Andrew Luck. The call will last about 5-7 minutes. Said he'll give Warpath a shout out too!

[MTK]

RG3's stats blow Luck's out of the water when you compare them side by side, no contest really.

Luck has too many turnovers.

[scowan]

I hate to say it, but in my mind if the Redskins dont' win this Sunday and win the Division, then I think Andrew Luck is ROY for taking his team to the playoffs. If The skins win however, RGIII will have won the NFC East for his team, which one-ups Luck. I know RGIII wins the "most effecient" award between the two of them and Russell Wilson has been right up there as well. But objectively you have to say going from 2-14 to the playoffs is just amazing for Indy and without Luck, it doesn't happen.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So you wouldn't bring that up?

The thinking from Indy's perspective is Luck has brought the franchise back from the dead and turned them around. ButI hear ya.

Yeah I don't buy that thinking, because the Colts really had one bad year. They haven't been a franchise mired in mediocrity. I do understand they have many new players.

Luck has had a solid season but not the most efficient in my opinion. I mean the turnovers alone have been prolific and at times horrific. Luck this year is like that NBA player who you say "Wow! He scored 40 points tonight" and then you see he was 13-38 from the field, 4-10 from 3 point range, and 12-12 from the line" (don't ask me if that adds up to 40, I didn't do the math).

But speak from your heart man, you're a lifelong DC resident. Talk about how the two most important positions in DC are President of the US and Redskins QB. And RG3 has revitalized not just the franchise, but the community.

[mooby]

I haven't seen anything other than Luck's highlights, but from the limited amount I've seen of him I can say I think he looks natural and comfortable in the pocket, and is also surprisingly calm for a rookie qb. He's made his share of rookie turnovers but it doesn't seem to faze him at all, and big deficits don't faze him either.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

RG3's stats blow Luck's out of the water when you compare them side by side, no contest really.

Luck has too many turnovers.

I hear everyone saying this but to be fair, Luck has around 600 throws and they play in a pass first offense. Ours is run first. RG3 doesn't even have 400 attempts. Still, RG3 has protected the ball better than Luck, but if we ran that type of offense, he would probably have more picks. Just sayin' ...

[Chico23231]

I think you talk about completion % 66.4 to 54.3 and Yards per attempt 8.27 vs 6.98. When comparing, talk about the expectations as a natural passer. RG3 wasnt suppose to do this, Luck was expected too. The 8.27 per attempt crushes any arguement of screens, short passes. RG3 is leading the league with 8.27 meaning he is getting the ball down the field and doing at a very accurate clip. Also you talk about the interceptions too.

The crazy thing is RG3 is a much better pure passer than originally thought, and he is doing this convincingly better than Luck.

I think the rush, big plays speak for themself from RG3.

I think if they bring up scheme its the equivalent of a weak arguement of who you played and beat. You cant determine the schedule just like RG3 couldnt develop the scheme.

[scowan]

I guess the real question is what has ROY been based on in the past? Individual preformance or team record. MVP is more a team record achievement to me. How "Valuable" are you to your team. ROY is more stat based and individual accomplishments in my mind. If you take team performance and records away then RGIII has had a better Rookie year than anyone really. I would also like to see if someone knows the QB ratings of Rookie QBs in the past. Has anyone ever been over 100 in their Rookie year? I think baring a total colapse by RGIII Sunday, he will finsih the regular season with a QB rating over 100. Has that ever been done with as many games as he has played this year?

[12thMan]

Thanks, SS.