2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III)

SmootSmack · 12-20-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Second fewest YPA (5.90) after Gabbert; Bradford isn't too far away @ 6.06.

But its largely a function of Shurmurs 3 step drop heavy WCO.
When Shurmur was Bradford's OC Bradford was near the bottom for YPA @ 5.95 meanwhile McCoy was 7.10 w/ Dabol as his OC.

Just fur scuz Bradford career YPA- 5.99/McCoy 6.29
Josh Johnson? He seems like a logical fit.
Harbaugh's star pupil prior to Stanford.
Coming out of SDSU 1-AA he was a polished 3-5-7 step rhythm drop back passer with great athleticism.
He was also drafted by Bruce Allen for Gruden's WCO.

Josh Johnson is indeed a name I've mentioned. But that was just my own guessing. And no, not the guy I'm talking about

SkinzWin · 12-20-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

It's fun to predict and guess as a fan base. We do desperately need a QB, but there are many things that happen on draft day that we're not privy to. Maybe they like two guys and try to trade up but the price tag is too high. I don't want them to leverage our future, necessarily, just to get their guy. I hope the majority of Skins fans understand this. It's kind of funny, I can see this playing a couple ways.

1. Skins throw away / over pay for Luck/Griffin as usual.
2. Skins have a crappy draft b/c they don't get Luck / Griffin.

I guess I'm trying to say sh** happens and while I'd like to walk away w/ Luck/Griffin/or other we need to continue to draft good players. I trust them and expect them to be smart about it.

I know you know this, but while i'd be disappointed I'd be happy with another good draft. While Grossman is not our long term answer, he may be our answer next year.

I don't know why there is all this speculation about RG3. He basically is only going to go into the draft as a last option. His "Plan B". He wants to go to law school and compete in the 2012 Summer Olympics in track and field.

SFREDSKIN · 12-21-2011, 12:21 AM

I don't know if you guys knew this, but Harbaugh tried to recruit RGIII at the same time he was recruiting Luck.

Griffin, a quarterback and track star out of Copperas Cove High School in Texas, would come to Palo Alto and play for Harbaugh at Stanford, sharing quarterback duties with another Texas high schooler — a blue-chip recruit named Andrew Luck.

diehard · 12-21-2011, 02:49 AM

RG3 can run, jump, and set records at the COMBINE if all he wants to do is compete during the summer.

30gut · 12-21-2011, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Josh Johnson is indeed a name I've mentioned. But that was just my own guessing. And no, not the guy I'm talking about

Okay, TJ Yates, Matt Lienart, Dan Orlovsky?
I'll stop guessing now.
Although I would really like to know and you probably won't tell me/us.

Tease.

SmootSmack · 12-21-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Okay, TJ Yates, Matt Lienart, Dan Orlovsky?
I'll stop guessing now.
Although I would really like to know and you probably won't tell me/us.

Tease.

No, eh who knows anymore, Noooooooo (I hope)

Not going to say it because I don't have enough info to confirm the rumor it legit enough to mention to the masses. It's not a name you'd probably expect and it may not be a name some people want to hear. So I'd rather just keep it under wraps for now.

30gut · 12-21-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No, eh who knows anymore, Noooooooo (I hope)

Not going to say it because I don't have enough info to confirm the rumor it legit enough to mention to the masses. It's not a name you'd probably expect and it may not be a name some people want to hear. So I'd rather just keep it under wraps for now.

Jimmy Clausen?

mbedner3420 · 12-21-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Jimmy Clausen?

That is who I was thinking too. I would not be a fan of that move. But, if we drafted our own QB to develop too, I guess I wouldn't be too terribly upset.

SmootSmack · 12-21-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Jimmy Clausen?

Jimmy Clausen? Jeez! Could you imagine?!

He's not a FA though, is he?

celts32 · 12-21-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think if we're not in the top 5 then we're likely to trade down and get one of the supposed 2nd tier QBs and add picks. But that's just my guess

If we are in the top 5 I'm still not totally convinced we're taking one of the big 3 at QB

If the Redskins are in the top 5 and pass on a QB I will probably break my TV and end up in a mental institution...

mbedner3420 · 12-21-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Jimmy Clausen? Jeez! Could you imagine?!

He's not a FA though, is he?

I just assumed he'd be cut after this year.

SmootSmack · 12-21-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

If the Redskins are in the top 5 and pass on a QB I will probably break my TV and end up in a mental institution...

Let me just throw this hypothetical out there?

Is Barkley and say Dwight Jones significantly better than Justin Blackmon Nick Foles?

I guess what I'm asking is do you think the gap between the top 3 (Luck, Barkley, RG III) and the next set of QBs significant?

mbedner3420 · 12-21-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Let me just throw this hypothetical out there?

Is Barkley and say Dwight Jones significantly better than Justin Blackmon Nick Foles?

I guess what I'm asking is do you think the gap between the top 3 (Luck, Barkley, RG III) and the next set of QBs significant?

I would say so. I would say there is a big drop off from Barkley to Landry Jones (who someone once considered the second best QB in this draft class after Luck -- he is now considered a second teir QB).

Also, I know it was an example, but I can't see Blackmon falling to us anyway or Shanahan trading up for him.

celts32 · 12-21-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Let me just throw this hypothetical out there?

Is Barkley and say Dwight Jones significantly better than Justin Blackmon Nick Foles?

I guess what I'm asking is do you think the gap between the top 3 (Luck, Barkley, RG III) and the next set of QBs significant?

I am not as high on Barkley but with the other 2 I think the gap is significant. I don't want to settle anymore. I don't care about draft value or filling as many holes as possible in this draft. I want them to get the #1 QB on their board...and if that's not possible because the Colts won't trade then i want them to get the #2 QB on their board. I don't want them to trade down or wait around and hope that their 4th favorite QB falls to them.

I am not pinning the last 20 years of QB ineptitude and frustration on Shanny/Allen but this is year 3 for them...theya re out of time to get cute with trade downs and waiting and risk having it backfire on them.

SmootSmack · 12-21-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I am not as high on Barkley but with the other 2 I think the gap is significant. I don't want to settle anymore. I don't care about draft value or filling as many holes as possible in this draft. I want them to get the #1 QB on their board...and if that's not possible because the Colts won't trade then i want them to get the #2 QB on their board. I don't want them to trade down or wait around and hope that their 4th favorite QB falls to them.

I am not pinning the last 20 years of QB ineptitude and frustration on Shanny/Allen but this is year 3 for them...theya re out of time to get cute with trade downs and waiting and risk having it backfire on them.

Ok, so then what if the only choice is Barkley. Not one of the other two?

More importantly, you said a key phrase "the #1 QB on their board" This is what's key. The #1 QB on their board may not be what the consensus #1 is.

12-21-2011, 12:21 AM	#168
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III) I don't know if you guys knew this, but Harbaugh tried to recruit RGIII at the same time he was recruiting Luck. Griffin, a quarterback and track star out of Copperas Cove High School in Texas, would come to Palo Alto and play for Harbaugh at Stanford, sharing quarterback duties with another Texas high schooler — a blue-chip recruit named Andrew Luck. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-21-2011, 02:49 AM	#169
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: 2012 Draft-QB Prospects (Part III) RG3 can run, jump, and set records at the COMBINE if all he wants to do is compete during the summer. __________________ *'Any NFL team will win with RG3. Imagine how exciting it will be watching him do it.'*

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