Who Can Lead This Team?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

No I don't like it when people take what I say out of context, fragment, and skew it on a tilt so that it leans in a direction of their choosing. I enjoy rational debate, just not generic debate. But my posts are there. I've covered most of these topics.

And when we're running single wing offset I with Logan Paulson playing the wing, Cooley as the FB, and Fred Davis no where in sight on consecutive drives. There's a problem. Perhaps you should pay more attention to the game, and think less about how you're going to impress the pod people on the warpath.

Speaking of this, any word on Davis? I've been avoiding sports radio/twitter/internet lately. I'm still baffled at how the guy disappeared.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

Perhaps you should pay more attention to the game, and think less about how you're going to impress the pod people on the warpath.

LOL. That's one way to "win" an argument, I guess. Kudos to you! Is that what you're looking for? I honestly don't know.

Like I said, I agreed with you that it was odd that Davis' name wasn't called more often and my first thought was that he had simply been covered well. Your reaction is to chide me for not paying enough attention to the game?

Good show, though! You're living up to the edgy nickname and will be an internet legend in no time. I await your next missive with bated breath!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Speaking of this, any word on Davis? I've been avoiding sports radio/twitter/internet lately. I'm still baffled at how the guy disappeared.

He was on the field all but two snaps. Dallas just took him away in the passing game.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why can't Santana do that? He's shown he can time and time again

The 4th down TD against Arizona comes to mind of him putting the team on his back in the clutch.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What in the world are you talking about?

Global Warming???

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I was on the Beck bandwagon all preseason

Yes, but now we know you secretly think that Rex is the 2nd coming of Johnny Unitas. The secret is out Matty.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by firstdown

U guys do remember that Rex is only in his 6th game as our starter and we had a short preseason.

We had a short pre-season? I thought we played four games.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

Wikipedia is really not most reliable source for information. I saw an excerpt from Wikipedia that claimed Dan Snyder was gay for dinosaurs. It's funny, but highly doubtful in the fact catagory.

For the most part, I think a number of decisions this coaching staff has made, personnel wise, this season have been great. Helu, Josh Wilson, Kerrigan, Bowens, Hank, OJ etc. all, in my opinion very good acquistions. But Fred Davis being virtually non-existent in the game last night, and essentially replacing his touches with what seems to be a smaller, slower, less menasing version of the Captain Chaos we are accustom to seeing, seems, atleast to me, like a very poor game planning decision. Especially when Fred Davis had been a dominant safety blanket in the first 2 games. Running stretch plays on most early 1st down scenarios. Redzone playcalling that discourages us from capitalizing on scoring opportunities, and turnovers. I realize that they're in the past, but the McNabb and Haynesworth debacles didn't really instill a solid foundation for trust. Larry Johnson, Joey Galloway. I'm not going to just accept these shaky decisions based on a lulling adherence to the Shanahan's past achievements. I will question.

Sorry if my initial statement was percieved as contentious, it wasn't my intent. I was looking for elaboration.

That's all.

Crazier things have happened.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He was on the field all but two snaps. Dallas just took him away in the passing game.

Davis is not on the field for more than 2 snaps in the highlight reel alone. And the ones where he is on the field they leave him in to max protect. That's not the Cowboys taking him out of the game. That's us taking him out of the game.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

I really hate seeing threads like this 3 games into the season.

Welcome to The Warpath.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Please, do tell me, any of you. Has any of our WRs or center done anything as ****ing stupid as Costa and the Dallas WRs did last night? Well, that's a damn good reason why Rex Grossman isn't screaming like a madman.

#2. I am ****ING sick and tired of "colloquial psychological theory" in which "leadership" is equivalent to just having more body language and screaming your ass off. When "leading" someone, you are trying to INFLUENCE their goddamn behavior. Going rah-rah-rah will not necessarily change anyone's behavior. There are a bunch of theories into leadership, but simply having more demonstrative body language and "screaming" ain't one of them.

And Beck can't lead? Who the **** was organizing those player workouts in the offseason. Yeah, Beck.

I might not care about religion, but all the forgiveness talk is bound to make non-members think sissyness is principle number 1.

Beck was not even the named starter so why would he be organizing the team workouts? The correct person took the lead and got the players together.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

The 4th down TD against Arizona comes to mind of him putting the team on his back in the clutch.

How quickly we forget.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

And my point was that there are clear incongruities in how individuals define what actually constitutes a "gunslinger". I don't care if you labeled him, or if it's the most searched topic on the web. In my definition,(you can reference previous posts if you care to refresh your memory)Rex Grossman is not a "gunslinger", plain and simple. He's simply a pathetic decision maker that suffers from tremorous bouts where he lacks any impulse control whatsoever.

And to everything else you wrote. It's like I'm always battling with an incarnation of the same person, spewing the same rhetoric, from the same sources, where virtually no independant thought is required. Everything is a reference from someone else, and it fast becomes boring and myopic. I could glean your perspective on these issues by funneling the mass consensus through the same narrow vortex. Your last post was a huge waist of time. If you want to know how I would respond to all the same points go to my post history. I'm done playing the redundancy game.

anyone ever wonder why the smilie of the guy in "shit hitting the fan" has his tongue out after the shit is all over his face?????That s fvckin sick!!!!!


Oh yeah, you should change the hater smilie to hatter. that is all.

[Bucket]

Worse thread of the year

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't think leadership is our problem. We need sharper execution in the red zone.

Agreed. I don't think this team lacks leadership on either side of the ball; this really is a different team from last year's version.

I think the players have great deal of respect for Rex Grossman, which he earned during the pre-season and the first three games. In fact, I think they like playing for Rex more than McNabb. Just my opinion, of course.

Like Matty said, we just need to execute better in the red zone and everything else will take care of itself.