ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

Dirtbag59 · 02-12-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I can't wait for the team to go to Dalton's Pro Day so When my banwagon thread gets started I can get all excited too about how he's the best QB out there and how he has the most potential.

For the last time. We're not going to make Charlie Frye our franchise QB. I'm sorry did I say Charlie Frye I meant to say Andy Dalton

SBXVII · 02-12-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

For the last time. We're not going to make Charlie Frye our franchise QB. I'm sorry did I say Charlie Frye I meant to say Andy Dalton

Hey simply put..... Charlie Frye... I mean Andy Dalton knows how to win... did he even lose a game in 2010? I think not. :O

Dirtbag59 · 02-13-2011, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hey simply put..... Charlie Frye... I mean Andy Dalton knows how to win... did he even lose a game in 2010? I think not. :O

Yeah well I tell you what if them TCU fellars done be in the SEC they done would have been like negative 18 and twelve. SEC done be the best conference from top to bottom. Vanderbilt would win the PAC 10 with ease never mind TCU's cute little wanna be college conference. Yes sire I tell you what.

GMScud · 02-13-2011, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah well I tell you what if them TCU fellars done be in the SEC they done would have been like negative 18 and twelve. SEC done be the best conference from top to bottom. Vanderbilt would win the PAC 10 with ease never mind TCU's cute little wanna be college conference. Yes sire I tell you what.

You've spent waaaay too much time in Georgia. Despite my alma mater, I'm not a southerner, but if I was I'd be offended.

But admit it, if TCU was in the SEC, they certainly wouldn't have 12-0/11-1 type records the past few years. 10-2/9-3 is definitely possible, but not this undefeated stuff.

Dirtbag59 · 02-13-2011, 02:49 AM

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You've spent waaaay too much time in Georgia. Despite my alma mater, I'm not a southerner, but if I was I'd be offended.

But admit it, if TCU was in the SEC, they certainly wouldn't have 12-0/11-1 type records the past few years. 10-2/9-3 is definitely possible, but not this undefeated stuff.

Oh I have no mistake, I absolutely detest the concept of SEC fans, not to mention the conference itself. I respect the conference as the best in college football but not by the gap that "SEC fans" seem to create between themselves and the Pac 10/Big XII/Big 10. Scud knows this very well.

As for Dalton, I just can't jump on board yet. He's a spread QB (which I don't necessarily hold against any QB to much) that doesn't have great physical tools. I don't know about his football IQ either as I can't find a scout thats been able to talk about it in detail.

What I see when I look at Dalton is a mid round spread QB with average physical tools all the while knowing little if anything about his football IQ. And even though I respect TCU for going out looking for tough games only to be turned down time and time again (allegedly a handful of SEC teams along with numerous others turned down frequent request to have TCU travel to play them) the fact is the only teams they did end up playing weren't to impressive until they beat Wisconsin.

Wouldn't mind acquiring a guy like him as an insurance policy "QB of the future" with a more touted prospect on board (a la a Gus Ferrote to compliment a Heath Schuler) but I just can't trust the franchises future at its most important position with what I see as an average prospect being the best option (even the Falcons had Michael Vick when they drafted Matt Schuab). As of now the only Mid round QB I have any confidence in is Ponder and even he makes me nervous.

And you're right I have spent to much time in the South.

skinsfan69 · 02-13-2011, 11:38 AM

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After watching Newton's workout yesterday I'm convinced that this man wants to be the best he can be. And he looked damn good too. I know it's alot easier when there's not an actual pass rush, however he looked remarkable. I just hope he's still there at number 10 when we pick.

total different story when someone is throwing an zone blitz at you. workouts in tee shirts and shorts does nothing for me.

wilsowilso · 02-13-2011, 11:49 AM

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total different story when someone is throwing an zone blitz at you. workouts in tee shirts and shorts does nothing for me.

If I was a GM and was looking for a QB I wouldn't even attend the pro day workouts.

Sure it's useful if you want to get a look at a LB prospect, but evaluating a QB in a choreographed rehearsal is close to useless and is probably one of the reasons these talent evaluating clowns are always blowing it on bust QB's.

That's one of the reasons I am pretty intrigued by Jake Locker. Go watch the guy play in real lives games against the pro farm team USC over the last two years.

Thats how I evaluate college QB's.

NC_Skins · 02-13-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

After watching Newton's workout yesterday I'm convinced that this man wants to be the best he can be. And he looked damn good too. I know it's alot easier when there's not an actual pass rush, however he looked remarkable. I just hope he's still there at number 10 when we pick.

JaMarcus Russell had the best workout that the scouts had ever seen. Not saying. Just saying.

I'm going on record and saying that whoever picks sCam Newton in the first round is going to be set back 3-5 years. Said the same thing about Tebow, and Vince Young too.

12thMan · 02-13-2011, 03:15 PM

So I haven't been following this thread, but is it a foregone conclusion that we're drafting Cam?

SmootSmack · 02-13-2011, 03:21 PM

Not at all 12th

GusFrerotte · 02-13-2011, 07:05 PM

The Best Qbs probably are not even the big names in this one. I was wrong about Bradford, and maybe wrong about Cam, but damn, he only started one year, in one of the weaker years for SEC football IMHO. On top of that, the off the field crap only makes me wonder about his work ethic, and what he will do when he isn't handed everything on a silver platter right off the bat.

GusFrerotte · 02-13-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hey simply put..... Charlie Frye... I mean Andy Dalton knows how to win... did he even lose a game in 2010? I think not. :O

Andy Dalton looks like a good overall guy and QB. He has the tools minus the off the field question marks. His work ethic is pretty strong. The work ethic is why I am down on taking a chance with Cam. Plus, like JC, Cam had one hell of a team behind him in a rather weak year for the SEC. Other than really Bama and Auburn, with LSU tagging behind, the SEC wasn't as strong as usual.

skinsfan69 · 02-13-2011, 07:22 PM

Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?

SOUL-SKINS · 02-13-2011, 07:26 PM

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Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?

Honestly.... Yes.

BuckSkin · 02-13-2011, 07:35 PM

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Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?

Absolutely: who outside of the SEC knew who JC was? Not me, not in the Mid- west.

02-13-2011, 03:15 PM	#144
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft So I haven't been following this thread, but is it a foregone conclusion that we're drafting Cam?

02-13-2011, 03:21 PM	#145
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Not at all 12th __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-13-2011, 07:05 PM	#146
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft The Best Qbs probably are not even the big names in this one. I was wrong about Bradford, and maybe wrong about Cam, but damn, he only started one year, in one of the weaker years for SEC football IMHO. On top of that, the off the field crap only makes me wonder about his work ethic, and what he will do when he isn't handed everything on a silver platter right off the bat.

02-13-2011, 07:22 PM	#148
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft Does anyone honestly think Cam Newton will be any better than Jason Campbell?

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