Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth

[skinsfaninok]

Good points Credskins and 12THMAN, I just hope this shit can get resolved soon.. Lets just play football and get a HUGE win on SNF! Big AL needs to start or atleast play almost every down in this game.. ( If he's still here)

[KI Skins Fan]

I'm on record as saying that AH is selfish. I believe that he is. I don't think that he's much of a teammate and I doubt that he helps other players on the team to develop their skills. He's hard-headed, he defies authority figures, and he's determined to do things his way as much as possible.

But then there is Game Day. In games that count, he is a true badass. He is practically immovable on short yardage plays. What he does for our defense on Third Down and in the Red Zone cannot be replaced. He also demands double teams, collapses the pocket on pass plays and frees up our speed rushers to pressure the QB.

For me, the key to the entire soap opera between AH and Shanahan is this: I believe that AH will play hard an effectively in the real games. He has too much personal pride to not do so. I think it is time for Shanahan to accept that AH is a special player whose peculiarities need to be tolerated to some extent. I don't think that allowing AH some special privileges will adversely affect the attitudes of the other players as long as they see AH dominating on Sundays. Special treatment for special players is part of the culture of professional athletics (see Brett Farve).

Add to that the extremely remote possibilities that the Redskins could ever negotiate equivalent compensation in a trade for him or get back any of the sunk cost they have in him and it becomes a no-brainer for me. Shanahan should back off of AH a little, tell his minions to STFU about him, end all trade talk, tell Albert that he will not be traded, put him in the starting lineup, and then send the man out on a mission to destroy the Cowboys offense.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I like Shanahan's "tough-guy, don't tread on me" attitude. At first I wasn't sure how to feel about him -- if we won, then I'd like him -- but now I know. Wins or not, Shanahan is the real deal. He's building a team, and there is absolutely no place for compromise. You submit, and fall in line, and you never defy the coach. That's good leadership, in my opinion. People usually respond well to people who know what they want. Shanahan knows what he wants, and he doesn't waver.

[SkinzWin]

After reading everyone's opinion I have come to my own conclusion. What's going to happen is going to happen. No one really knows what that may be until it actually happens. I think we would be much better served talking about Dallas and comparing our two teams, not comparing our own players and staff. I for one am very excited about Sunday night and I hope be beat the pants off of the Cowboys. I'm starting a grass roots movement. Let's lock this thread and EVERYONE will go streaking through the quad to the gymnasium. And then to the thread on Dallas. Who's with me?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

One of the biggest questions lost in this whole mess (why the 3-4). I really hope it doesn't come to this, but if our defense falters I hope someone makes MS accountable for making this switch. I'm still surprised that with his win-now attitude (instead of rebuilding), he would want to make such a drastic change.

This is exactly right. I was one of the folks that was not happy about the change to 3-4. I like 4-3 better.

We made the move to increase saks, so we better get more sacks soon or else this move will be a waste. So far this preseason we have not seen an increase in sacks. I am hoping Hasslett is just hiding his bread and butter plays for Dallas.
I am still concerned about Andre Carter, he still looks like he is constantly behind the play. His mental part of the game is not there yet. I am hoping he will catch up and get comfortable.

[CRedskinsRule]

A solid/simple ending to this drama would be for AH to play lights out on whatever number of snaps he gets, MS in the post game presser to say AH showed tonight why we paid him that 21Mill in the first place, and Haslett on Monday to put him in the starting lineup. That would make me nearly as happy as Ace's 41 point prediction coming true (and I think my scenario has a far better chance of happening)

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

After reading everyone's opinion I have come to my own conclusion. What's going to happen is going to happen. No one really knows what that may be until it actually happens. I think we would be much better served talking about Dallas and comparing our two teams, not comparing our own players and staff. I for one am very excited about Sunday night and I hope be beat the pants off of the Cowboys. I'm starting a grass roots movement. Let's lock this thread and EVERYONE will go streaking through the quad to the gymnasium. And then to the thread on Dallas. Who's with me?

I'm 62 years old. Nobody should have to see my naked body.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

This is exactly right. I was one of the folks that was not happy about the change to 3-4. I like 4-3 better.

We made the move to increase saks, so we better get more sacks soon or else this move will be a waste. So far this preseason we have not seen an increase in sacks. I am hoping Hasslett is just hiding his bread and butter plays for Dallas.
I am still concerned about Andre Carter, he still looks like he is constantly behind the play. His mental part of the game is not there yet. I am hoping he will catch up and get comfortable.

I understand the move to 3-4, Haslett feels like Orakpo will be the elite pass rusher that Ware, Dumerville and Suggs are. All 3 of those guys play in a 3-4 defense or atleast did. I didn't really care for the move either but lets be patient and give them a chance.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

This is exactly right. I was one of the folks that was not happy about the change to 3-4. I like 4-3 better.

We made the move to increase saks, so we better get more sacks soon or else this move will be a waste. So far this preseason we have not seen an increase in sacks. I am hoping Hasslett is just hiding his bread and butter plays for Dallas.
I am still concerned about Andre Carter, he still looks like he is constantly behind the play. His mental part of the game is not there yet. I am hoping he will catch up and get comfortable.

Washington Redskins' defense: New scheme installed to increase turnovers

Much to Shanahan's delight, the Redskins produced eight turnovers in the first three preseason games, generally considered the most important games for evaluating players and choosing the opening 53-man roster.

"We had eight in [the first] three games," Shanahan said. "If you did that for the season it'd be 42, 421/2. I think Green Bay led the NFL last year with 40, so you feel pretty good."

Hall became the first Redskins player with two interceptions in the preseason since safety Sean Taylor had three before the 2004 season.

"And the thing is we haven't run any of Has's defenses," Hall said. "We've just been out there playing vanilla, not trying to show nothing. Just wait 'til we start the season and start running all this stuff we've been working on from the start. It'll be on then. It's scary."

[skinsfaninok]

Again Adam Schefter just reported on ESPN SC that Haynesworth will remain in Washington because no team is willing to give up what we are asking for.

[DIEHARD1980]

My opinion is that since the redskins went under the new regime, redskins fans cant let go of the old cerato and snyder regime. shanahan and company are here to improve the team not get rid of assets that can be beneficial as time progresses. Dont beleive the hype, haynesworth is not going anywhere.

[skinsfaninok]

Fisher on Haynesworth: "We're in good shape" but "we'll listen" | ProFootballTalk.com

Redskins teammates look past "distracting" Haynesworth situation | ProFootballTalk.com

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Again Adam Schefter just reported on ESPN SC that Haynesworth will remain in Washington because no team is willing to give up what we are asking for.

But if someone does...

[Player_HTTR]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But if someone does...

Trade deadkine is Week 6, he might not be worth what we are asking yet...

[SFREDSKIN]

Fat Albert should be hanging out Lorenzo and learning how to be a professional!!


Lorenzo Alexander learning yet another position

Is there any limit to Lorenzo Alexander's versatility?

It seems the Redskins are determined to find out after recently requesting that the outside linebacker learn to play the inside backer positions just in case he is needed in an emergency situation.

Of course, Alexander complied. He is studying the playbook to learn the assignments of starting inside linebackers London Fletcher and Rocky McIntosh, and backup H.B. Blades.

"Everything starts out as an emergency-type thing," Alexander said. "I'm learning the middle linebacker, and hopefully I'll be able to fill in for guys just in case, God forbid, if Rocky or London or H.B. went down with an injury. If they needed somebody to play there in the game, I'd be able to step in and just fill another role on the team."

If you're scoring at home, Alexander has lined up at outside linebacker, defensive tackle, defensive end, guard, tight end and fullback. He also fills roles on special teams.

He has made a smooth transition to outside linebacker from his former primary position along the defensive line. Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett raves about Alexander, who will back up Andre Carter, a converted defensive end, against the Dallas Cowboys in the season opener Sunday night. Alexander is expected to play primarily on third downs.

With this being Dallas Week and Alexander only starting to learn the inside positions, "I'm not going to get [practice] reps at it at all," he said. "I mean, London, Rocky ... they're going to give the reps to guys who are preparing to play. They're not going to prepare for an emergency.


"I try to take my reps when we do practice-squad things. I don't know it quite all the way but I know certain defenses. I can't tell you I know the whole playbook yet - but I plan to learn the whole playbook. I want to be versatile. That's been my M.O. since I've been here."

So, are all those positions a little overwhelming at times? "You know where I went to school, so it's never too much," said Alexander, a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley. "I'm a smart guy. I can handle it."

"It's not a big thing. You learn how to make things simple, so you can group things together. You hear one call, it might be the same thing for three, four, five different calls. You just group 'em together and it's all the same. That's how I kind of learn and keep it all together."