Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Didn't know there were rumors. All I had said was Titans are frustrated with him and I'd like to get him. But I did also say theyre not likely to move him.

Ace was saying we were wanting to add Britt, I figured you would have the scoop.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I would beg to differ with you sir. I feel it's all Haynesworth's fault. He was in total control of this situation throughout. If you recall last yr he would be on the field for any more then 9 plays and he would lay on the field taking an injury time out then after the commercials walk off the field. Only to return the next series. Haynesworth said himself he was out of shape all yr and was going to go work with his trainer and "get in shape" and come back and prove himself.

Zorn was fired, Shanahan was hired, Haslett picked up and after his meeting with the new HC, Haynesworth walked away advising he would not be in OTA's and would be working out with his trainer cause he was not going to come back and embarrass himself.

So basically "if" Haynesworth kept his promise, worked out like he said he would in order to get in better shape then he was last yr, arrived back at the begining of camp and proved he was in shape and provided a better showing on the field during preseason games, Mike Shanahan could do nothing else but eat his words and move on.

Instead he stays away through out OTA's as advised, he supposedly "gets in shape", returns to camp and can't pass the physical test, gets on the field and can't last a quarter, when interviewed by reporters he curses at them, tells them the organization didn't tell the whole story (whatever that means), and then says everything is peaches and cream. When in fact it was not.

Personally he should be treated like Lavar was and benched until he's capable of playing at full strength for the whole game. Given a monitary fine for each game he is not ready or capable of playing all 4 quarters in. If Haynesworth does not feel this is fair then he can always pay back the 21 mill he took from the organization. I can't imagine anyone on this board accepting a decent size check from their boss would not be expected to perform for the company in some way shape fashion or form. For 21 mill AH was expected to simply be in shape. Thats his job, to be in shape. Heck he's playing a game. Fat Al should be forced to actually go out and work at a construction site, flip burgers at McDonalds, farm land or any manual labor job available for a yr and let him decide after that which he prefers. Excercising hard in the offseason and being in shape and ready to play in order to make millions or sitting home on Sun. and watch it on his wide screen tv after working 40+ hours a week for little money.

If we're talking about could've/would've/should've then throw in there MS for not making a deal a long time ago. I agree with what everything you say about AH, but the team is also at fault for not cutting their losses period and waiting until now. As I've said before, getting rid of Vinny's mistakes won't be cheap.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Which was exactly my point. The things the fans are focused on are not necessarily the same things the players are.

Well except for AH since its about him. lol. Probably cause he's propetuating it but it's still hovering around him. The rest of the team is probably focusing on Dallas.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If we're talking about could've/would've/should've then throw in there MS for not making a deal a long time ago. I agree with what everything you say about AH, but the team is also at fault for not cutting their losses period and waiting until now. As I've said before, getting rid of Vinny's mistakes won't be cheap.

Trust me I agree with you, but I don't think we got good value from anyone early on or we probably would have made the trade.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Trust me I agree with you, but I don't think we got good value from anyone early on or we probably would have made the trade.

And you think we are going to get more now?

[The Goat]

Wake me up when there's real news.

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[skinsfaninok]

I want the guy gone but I also want a player that can help this team now in return. I understand the draft picks but this team is built to win now, and if/when we lose AH, that makes a huge Hole on our DL

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I never said this was a smoke screen. This is information that is out there. There are discussions taking place. Does not mean it will ever get done. I am sure BA and even MS won't take what is not proper compensation.

Two picks with at least a second rounder being in the deal would be fine by me. Can't see why they couldn't cough up two second rounders for AH.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I want the guy gone but I also want a player that can help this team now in return. I understand the draft picks but this team is built to win now, and if/when we lose AH, that makes a huge Hole on our DL

Well, it would have been easier to get that in July or early August instead of this week. For instance, we could have gone after Aubrayo Franklin of the 49ers, who has 3-4 experience. Or get someone else in here to improve our D-line. I just don't see the logic of waiting this long.

[skinsfaninok]

Yea I agree Ruhskins, I think the guy plays with us this season. Adam Schefter insists the Redskins will not trade Haynesworth.. He's usually right on

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well, it would have been easier to get that in July or early August instead of this week. For instance, we could have gone after Aubrayo Franklin of the 49ers, who has 3-4 experience. Or get someone else in here to improve our D-line. I just don't see the logic of waiting this long.

Niether do I. THe whole thing is weird, which is why folks probably came up with the smokescreen angle. I am starting to think the Shanny/Allen show isn't what is we were hoping for. The guy was disgruntled and should have been let go early on for maximum compensation.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yea I agree Ruhskins, I think the guy plays with us this season. Adam Schefter insists the Redskins will not trade Haynesworth.. He's usually right on

Did he really because I saw him on NFL Live today and he said nothing like that when they were discussing Haynesworth. There's also nothing besides the initial rumor on his Twitter page.

[skinsfaninok]

I saw this morning on SC and he said he thinks we are asking for too much in return and he doubts a trade will happen. Hey I hope we trade the POS, but we have heard this all offseason.

[GusFrerotte]

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[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Guys my GusFrerotte's Skins league is still open. The league ID is 261854 and the password is Riggins

Are we including this with Albert?