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Old 08-12-2010, 11:45 AM   #31
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What about Devin Hester, DeSean Jackson, Percy Harvin...
There's always an exception to the rule....all of these guys have been doing special teams and made their names in ST before establishing themselves as WRs. These teams have game changers and they see the risk vs the reward of playing them on ST favorable. It should be interesting to see what the Eagles do with DeSean Jackson this year.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:52 AM   #32
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There's always an exception to the rule....all of these guys have been doing special teams and made their names in ST before establishing themselves as WRs. These teams have game changers and they see the risk vs the reward of playing them on ST favorable. It should be interesting to see what the Eagles do with DeSean Jackson this year.
What are you talking about? Harvin and Jackson both established themselves as WRs and STs their rookie season.
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:04 PM   #33
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What are you talking about? Harvin and Jackson both established themselves as WRs and STs their rookie season.
You're right about Jackson, he was a star receiver and returner from the get-go. I believe Harvin earned the slot WR spot after couple of games into the season having earned the punt return duties during the pre-season.


Who is the best returner on the Skins?

p.s. DeSean Jackson is 5'10" and 175 lbs.
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You're right about Jackson, he was a star receiver and returner from the get-go. I believe Harvin earned the slot WR spot after couple of games into the season having earned the punt return duties during the pre-season.


Who is the best returner on the Skins?

p.s. DeSean Jackson is 5'10" and 175 lbs.
I don't know, I thought Harvin was in the lineup from the get-go. As for who the best returner is, I don't know the answer to that either
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You're right about Jackson, he was a star receiver and returner from the get-go. I believe Harvin earned the slot WR spot after couple of games into the season having earned the punt return duties during the pre-season.


Who is the best returner on the Skins?

p.s. DeSean Jackson is 5'10" and 175 lbs.
Harvin was a kick returner from the beginning, if I remember correctly.

175 - 150 = 25 / 150 = Banks would need to add 16.7% more lean body mass to reach 175. And I'm telling you, I shook hands with the kid....that ain't happening, he's got a small frame. He'd be a great story if he could beat the odds, but bottom line it's a real long shot.

More exceptions (from ESPN Depth Charts):
Cardinals: PR - Steve Breaston, starting WR
Bills: KR - Fred Jackson, currently listed as #1 RB
Browns: KR/PR - Josh Cribbs, starting WR
Titans: KR - Kenny Britt, #3 WR
Saints: PR - Reggie Bush, #2 RB (#1 in some packages)
Jets: PR - Jericho Cotchery, # 3 WR
Bears: PR - Devin Hester, starting WR
Cowpukes: KR - Felix Jones, #2 RB
Broncos: KR/PR - Tim Tebow, he can do anything (LOL)....really Eddie Royal. starting WR
Jaguars: KR/PR - Mike Thomas, starting WR
Chiefs: KR - Jamaal Charles, currently listed as #1 RB
Dolphins: KR/PR - Davone Bess, starting WR
49ers: KR - Ted Ginn, #3 WR
Seahawks: KR/PR - Justin Forsett, #2 RB
Eagles, Vikings, Chargers - already mentioned
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Who is the best returner on the Skins?
We'll have a better idea at about 10:30pm tomorrow.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:56 PM   #37
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We're gonna find out. He's probably gonna get a real good look to see if he can hold up. As quick and fast as he is he can probably avoid 98% of the kill-type shots but hopefully he'll get lit up once or twice and we can see if he can handle it. If he can then I don't see how we let the guy off our roster. He's got special speed and quickness. Essentially if he was 4 inches taller and weighed 30 lbs more he is a top 3 draft pick. He reminds me so much of Hester in the way he just has crazy joy-stick like speed.
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:29 PM   #38
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Joy-stick?

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Old 08-12-2010, 02:42 PM   #39
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Harvin was a kick returner from the beginning, if I remember correctly.

175 - 150 = 25 / 150 = Banks would need to add 16.7% more lean body mass to reach 175. And I'm telling you, I shook hands with the kid....that ain't happening, he's got a small frame. He'd be a great story if he could beat the odds, but bottom line it's a real long shot.

More exceptions (from ESPN Depth Charts):
Cardinals: PR - Steve Breaston, starting WR
Bills: KR - Fred Jackson, currently listed as #1 RB
Browns: KR/PR - Josh Cribbs, starting WR
Titans: KR - Kenny Britt, #3 WR
Saints: PR - Reggie Bush, #2 RB (#1 in some packages)
Jets: PR - Jericho Cotchery, # 3 WR
Bears: PR - Devin Hester, starting WR
Cowpukes: KR - Felix Jones, #2 RB
Broncos: KR/PR - Tim Tebow, he can do anything (LOL)....really Eddie Royal. starting WR
Jaguars: KR/PR - Mike Thomas, starting WR
Chiefs: KR - Jamaal Charles, currently listed as #1 RB
Dolphins: KR/PR - Davone Bess, starting WR
49ers: KR - Ted Ginn, #3 WR
Seahawks: KR/PR - Justin Forsett, #2 RB
Eagles, Vikings, Chargers - already mentioned
Special teams folks moving into WR/RB position or guys that excel as specialists. It's risky but I'd risk all of these guys except DeSean Jackson.

If you're the Skins and you want talent, experience, and speed back there your options are Moss, Hall, Thomas, Galloway (I hear he's still a burner and did return punts for the Bucs), and Buchanon IMO. Who would you want to risk? Thomas could return kicks but lets face it, he's nothing to call home about. Are Galloway/Buchanon expendable? I don't know at this point.

There's not a single Redskin player from last year that is capable returner I would want to put back there so let's hope we get some fresh blood that's capable.
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Special teams folks moving into WR/RB position or guys that excel as specialists. It's risky but I'd risk all of these guys except DeSean Jackson.

If you're the Skins and you want talent, experience, and speed back there your options are Moss, Hall, Thomas, Galloway (I hear he's still a burner and did return punts for the Bucs), and Buchanon IMO. Who would you want to risk? Thomas could return kicks but lets face it, he's nothing to call home about. Are Galloway/Buchanon expendable? I don't know at this point.

There's not a single Redskin player from last year that is capable returner I would want to put back there so let's hope we get some fresh blood that's capable.
I'd risk all but Moss. None of the guys listed are difference makers.
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Every time I see or hear Banks I just cringe because all I think about is Tony Banks.
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Re: Brandon Banks

This guy will never start a football game in the NFL, he'll be lucky to be invited to the practice squad. Just too small.
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I'd risk all but Moss. None of the guys listed are difference makers.
Moss, Hall and Buchanon should be off returns if we're talking about risk.

Terrence Austin makes a lot of sense if Banks doesn't make it.
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Moss, Hall and Buchanon should be off returns if we're talking about risk.

Terrence Austin makes a lot of sense if Banks doesn't make it.
Moss only because he's our only proven 1-2 caliber NFL receiver who isn't at the end of his career. If Hall goes down, Buchanon or Barnes step up. If Buchanon goes down, Barnes/Tyron/etc. step up. Losing Hall or Buchanon isn't a "devastating blow" to the D. Orakpo, Fletch, or AH & Kemo (both), yes.
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Moss only because he's our only proven 1-2 caliber NFL receiver who isn't at the end of his career. If Hall goes down, Buchanon or Barnes step up. If Buchanon goes down, Barnes/Tyron/etc. step up. Losing Hall or Buchanon isn't a "devastating blow" to the D. Orakpo, Fletch, or AH & Kemo (both), yes.
The way he's been struggling lately, maybe Tryon's best shot is to make a name for himself as a returner on teams
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