How reporters are so quick to point fingers

JWsleep · 03-01-2005, 01:53 PM

I guess I feel that Jenkins and Wilbon are rubbing it in a bit, but that's what sports columnists do. And Danny and the skins are easy targets because every year it's something in the offseason, and the record never improves. And we know how much Pastabelly loves the skins...

But about the Coles thing, everyone keeps saying it's not about the money, Coles wants out, etc. But why is he insisting on a new deal from the Jets, a demand that KILLED THE DEAL? He was going to get exactly the same amount of money to return to Chad-land and long-pass glory and he kills it by DEMANDING MORE MONEY. And its the skins that are messed up here? My guess is its just like Wibon said: Danny said, sure, we'll consider FA as a possibility, and then Gibbs said WTF, we need to get some value. Coles wanting to be a FA is all about money, and the skins (Gibbs, I take it) bent over backward to try and move him. When they dare to ask for a little compensation, they're the ones who are screwed up? I don't buy it. As for the alleged promise of FA status to Coles, it's he said/she said, and Danny is the local child molestor at Neverland ranch/Redsksins park. And he will be until we make some decent moves and WIN SOME GAMES.

As for Lavar, his agent signed a contract without reading it. And again, this is Danny's fault? Couldn't possibly be the sainted Postons. You don't have to be a Crazy Cannuck to know that a SECOND 6.5 million dollar bonus was impossible for the skins, salarycap-wise. How did the Postons miss that? Or did they just get greedy and think they'd pulled a fast one on the NFL's friendliest ATM? Again, it's supposed to be the evil Danny-boy tricking inncocent agents and players. Please. Everyone brings long knives to these negotiations, and no one is telling the whole truth. It's business, people. This happens when you buy a car, you buy a computer, you negotiate for a raise, etc.

As for having "done everything wrong," let's wait and see. They didn't let Coles walk for nothing. They didn't offer Rolle a 15 mil bonus. They've created a lot of cap space with subtle moves and restructures. The rest is offseason smoke, so far. FA begins today.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2005, 02:05 PM

What a great post... I like your writing.

Redskins_P · 03-01-2005, 02:11 PM

Agreed. Good post JW.

Daseal · 03-01-2005, 02:20 PM

Nice post JW. Oddly enough I bring long knives to every warpath meeting. Incase SmootSmack starts to get uppity!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2005, 02:27 PM

Do you think that the Ade Jimoh Fan Club brings long knives to THEIR meetings?

saden1 · 03-01-2005, 02:32 PM

Even if you have enough money it probably won't be enough because your lifestyle will almost certainly increase in cost. Private schools cost money and the fact that you are willing to quit your job spells doom. This is a good read.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2005, 02:36 PM

Oh I won't deny that rich people have problems. I just feel like sometimes the unintelligent people are the ones who get rich and squander the money.

JWsleep · 03-01-2005, 02:54 PM

Thanks for the positive feedback on the post. But most likely, Danny-boy will go out and do something stupid and prove me wrong!

It's never boring in the offseason with the skins... it reminds me of the Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times.

FRPLG · 03-01-2005, 03:58 PM

Coles demanded a restructured eal when he got traded because he KNEW IT WOULD KILL A TRADE. He figured there was no way the Skins could trade him because of the cap issue. When the skins looked like they might go ahead and do it anyways he asked for more money to scare the Jets off. He wants to be a FA plain and simple. I think the manuvuering on his part shows this is a money issue now. This pisses me off. The NFL has a CBA with a cap for a reason...so greedy bastard ass punk football players don't sell their damn soles every year and kill the continuity in the league. So basically Coles got pissy that he wasn't catching TDs and decided to prey on Gibbs' honesty, loyalty and caring by asking out. He knew that Gibbs, as a stand up guy who cares about people and wants only the best for his team and his players, would a) realize a moral responsibilty to help a player he cares about get in a better situation and b) realize having said player around next season might engender locker room issues that he doesn't want his team to have to deal with. Knowing this he asked to be released in effect putting into motion a calculated ploy to get more money and more TDs. He doesn't give two craps about anything but his own wants and he's trying to use Gibbs at the expense of the Redskins and his friends. What punk. I would give him respect for doing this within the organization rather than within the media but that is probably a calculated ploy to keep his supposed intregity intact.

celts32 · 03-01-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Coles demanded a restructured eal when he got traded because he KNEW IT WOULD KILL A TRADE. He figured there was no way the Skins could trade him because of the cap issue. When the skins looked like they might go ahead and do it anyways he asked for more money to scare the Jets off. He wants to be a FA plain and simple. I think the manuvuering on his part shows this is a money issue now. This pisses me off. The NFL has a CBA with a cap for a reason...so greedy bastard ass punk football players don't sell their damn soles every year and kill the continuity in the league. So basically Coles got pissy that he wasn't catching TDs and decided to prey on Gibbs' honesty, loyalty and caring by asking out. He knew that Gibbs, as a stand up guy who cares about people and wants only the best for his team and his players, would a) realize a moral responsibilty to help a player he cares about get in a better situation and b) realize having said player around next season might engender locker room issues that he doesn't want his team to have to deal with. Knowing this he asked to be released in effect putting into motion a calculated ploy to get more money and more TDs. He doesn't give two craps about anything but his own wants and he's trying to use Gibbs at the expense of the Redskins and his friends. What punk. I would give him respect for doing this within the organization rather than within the media but that is probably a calculated ploy to keep his supposed intregity intact.

I agree with every word of this post. I never really liked LC as is evident by every post i ever wrote about him would atest. I have mixed emotions on this whole thing now. Part of me wants him off this team no matter what, and the other part of me says f-ck him I am going to make him play out every last second of that contract...

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2005, 05:10 PM

I would like to see him play out every second of his contract. I'm sure it would be amazing how different his attitude would be if the Redskins were winning next year. VERY few people are just begging to leave WINNING teams.

jrocx69 · 03-01-2005, 05:14 PM

sally jenkins needs more booty

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2005, 05:16 PM

???

Did I miss something?

jrocx69 · 03-01-2005, 05:47 PM

to ask that question says you didnt read 3/4 of the posts under this thread

MTK · 03-01-2005, 06:11 PM

Jenkins writes a couple of football articles a year, and they're always a major slam on Snyder.

03-01-2005, 01:53 PM	#16
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers I guess I feel that Jenkins and Wilbon are rubbing it in a bit, but that's what sports columnists do. And Danny and the skins are easy targets because every year it's something in the offseason, and the record never improves. And we know how much Pastabelly loves the skins... But about the Coles thing, everyone keeps saying it's not about the money, Coles wants out, etc. But why is he insisting on a new deal from the Jets, a demand that KILLED THE DEAL? He was going to get exactly the same amount of money to return to Chad-land and long-pass glory and he kills it by DEMANDING MORE MONEY. And its the skins that are messed up here? My guess is its just like Wibon said: Danny said, sure, we'll consider FA as a possibility, and then Gibbs said WTF, we need to get some value. Coles wanting to be a FA is all about money, and the skins (Gibbs, I take it) bent over backward to try and move him. When they dare to ask for a little compensation, they're the ones who are screwed up? I don't buy it. As for the alleged promise of FA status to Coles, it's he said/she said, and Danny is the local child molestor at Neverland ranch/Redsksins park. And he will be until we make some decent moves and WIN SOME GAMES. As for Lavar, his agent signed a contract without reading it. And again, this is Danny's fault? Couldn't possibly be the sainted Postons. You don't have to be a Crazy Cannuck to know that a SECOND 6.5 million dollar bonus was impossible for the skins, salarycap-wise. How did the Postons miss that? Or did they just get greedy and think they'd pulled a fast one on the NFL's friendliest ATM? Again, it's supposed to be the evil Danny-boy tricking inncocent agents and players. Please. Everyone brings long knives to these negotiations, and no one is telling the whole truth. It's business, people. This happens when you buy a car, you buy a computer, you negotiate for a raise, etc. As for having "done everything wrong," let's wait and see. They didn't let Coles walk for nothing. They didn't offer Rolle a 15 mil bonus. They've created a lot of cap space with subtle moves and restructures. The rest is offseason smoke, so far. FA begins today. __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-01-2005, 02:05 PM	#17
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers What a great post... I like your writing. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2005, 02:11 PM	#18
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Agreed. Good post JW.

03-01-2005, 02:20 PM	#19
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Nice post JW. Oddly enough I bring long knives to every warpath meeting. Incase SmootSmack starts to get uppity!

03-01-2005, 02:27 PM	#20
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Do you think that the Ade Jimoh Fan Club brings long knives to THEIR meetings? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2005, 02:32 PM	#21
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Even if you have enough money it probably won't be enough because your lifestyle will almost certainly increase in cost. Private schools cost money and the fact that you are willing to quit your job spells doom. This is a good read.

03-01-2005, 02:36 PM	#22
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Oh I won't deny that rich people have problems. I just feel like sometimes the unintelligent people are the ones who get rich and squander the money. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2005, 02:54 PM	#23
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Thanks for the positive feedback on the post. But most likely, Danny-boy will go out and do something stupid and prove me wrong! It's never boring in the offseason with the skins... it reminds me of the Chinese curse: may you live in interesting times. __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-01-2005, 03:58 PM	#24
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Coles demanded a restructured eal when he got traded because he KNEW IT WOULD KILL A TRADE. He figured there was no way the Skins could trade him because of the cap issue. When the skins looked like they might go ahead and do it anyways he asked for more money to scare the Jets off. He wants to be a FA plain and simple. I think the manuvuering on his part shows this is a money issue now. This pisses me off. The NFL has a CBA with a cap for a reason...so greedy bastard ass punk football players don't sell their damn soles every year and kill the continuity in the league. So basically Coles got pissy that he wasn't catching TDs and decided to prey on Gibbs' honesty, loyalty and caring by asking out. He knew that Gibbs, as a stand up guy who cares about people and wants only the best for his team and his players, would a) realize a moral responsibilty to help a player he cares about get in a better situation and b) realize having said player around next season might engender locker room issues that he doesn't want his team to have to deal with. Knowing this he asked to be released in effect putting into motion a calculated ploy to get more money and more TDs. He doesn't give two craps about anything but his own wants and he's trying to use Gibbs at the expense of the Redskins and his friends. What punk. I would give him respect for doing this within the organization rather than within the media but that is probably a calculated ploy to keep his supposed intregity intact.

03-01-2005, 05:10 PM	#26
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers I would like to see him play out every second of his contract. I'm sure it would be amazing how different his attitude would be if the Redskins were winning next year. VERY few people are just begging to leave WINNING teams. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2005, 05:14 PM	#27
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers sally jenkins needs more booty

03-01-2005, 05:16 PM	#28
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers ??? Did I miss something? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-01-2005, 05:47 PM	#29
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers to ask that question says you didnt read 3/4 of the posts under this thread

03-01-2005, 06:11 PM	#30
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: How reporters are so quick to point fingers Jenkins writes a couple of football articles a year, and they're always a major slam on Snyder. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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