The D. Hall incident

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I guess you can't accept the truth about DH, I said nothing against the Redskins. I guess you just can't find anything else but to make me look bad since I disagree with you. I guess most of writers of the articles about what happened must be wrong and you are right?

I already posted this once but D.C. Sports Bog - Inside the DeAngelo Hall sideline melee here it is again. I hadn't seen anything resembling this level of a breakdown in an article, have you? If so, can you post it? If anyone will side AGAINST the Skins it's Steinberg and the Post and they clearly didn't.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Its really sad to see DeAngelo surrounded by the entire Falcon team and not one player from the defense comes over to help him or come to his defense. Just goes to show how f-ed up our locker room is.

It looked to me like other Redskins were not aware of the situation. As soon as they were aware, Tryon, AH, and others came over to help.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I guess you can't accept the truth about DH, I said nothing against the Redskins. I guess you just can't find anything else but to make me look bad since I disagree with you. I guess most of writers of the articles about what happened must be wrong and you are right?

Hey, you're the one that's making yourself look bad.

When I saw the whole D. Hall thing, I was pissed off initially b/c I thought he had gone to the sideline to cause trouble (well initially I was pissed off more about Landry). But it wasn't all him, the ATL bench and their coaches did their part. Now you will never care about that nor any of the facts, you just have your blind opinion about the guy. So be it, but don't be upset when people call you out. Need I remind you that you were the person that bitched about Hall because (if memory serves me right) he tried to make a play and "would not just fall on the ball" after he picked off a pass.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Actually Landry was running out of their sidelines as Hall was running in and Landry had to go back and try to get Hall out.

lookin at this again, watchin d hall specifically, he was already on teh falcons sideline when landry was getting up. hall goes over to landry, hall and a falcons player exchange words, then the falcons HC among others get behind hall so he is surrounded with no way off teh sideline.

hall was stupid but he did not go over to the sideline after the play to talk ish b/c he was already there then the ish talkin started.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It looked to me like other Redskins were not aware of the situation. As soon as they were aware, Tryon, AH, and others came over to help.

yeah i agree with this. its just a hunch until some other skins players are asked but with the play being alll the way over on the falcons sideline im guessin it wasnt that the skins players didnt want to catch d hall's back but that they didnt know a shoving match was breaking out with a 20 on 1 status.

im sure a skins player or two will comment on what thye saw or thought was happening.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I already posted this once but D.C. Sports Bog - Inside the DeAngelo Hall sideline melee here it is again. I hadn't seen anything resembling this level of a breakdown in an article, have you? If so, can you post it? If anyone will side AGAINST the Skins it's Steinberg and the Post and they clearly didn't.

That's the best breakdown of the action and I agree it's probably 50/50 blame.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Smith gets a fine. He was only adding fuel to the fire.

[warpaint]

What is the strenght trainer grabbing Halls pads for, the Falcons clearly hate Hall. The way the team jumped on him proves it so, they just showed how low they are from top to bottom.

Im am not a Hall superfan, but come on every game played every week when an opposing player is on the sidline there are words being exchanged or something. No team ever jumps on a player like that.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Hey, you're the one that's making yourself look bad.

When I saw the whole D. Hall thing, I was pissed off initially b/c I thought he had gone to the sideline to cause trouble (well initially I was pissed off more about Landry). But it wasn't all him, the ATL bench and their coaches did their part. Now you will never care about that nor any of the facts, you just have your blind opinion about the guy. So be it, but don't be upset when people call you out. Need I remind you that you were the person that bitched about Hall because (if memory serves me right) he tried to make a play and "would not just fall on the ball" after he picked off a pass.

All this writers must be wrong on Hall's assessment, by the way on the thread "what do you expect at the Atlanta game" I posted I expect Hall to get a personal foul somehow. Guess what? Is that a coincidence?

Originally Posted by FalconsFan

MIKE SILVER, YAHOO! SPORTS:

“Is [Hall] experiencing problems with the imaginary friend who lives in his helmet? That’s my theory after he capped a ridiculous week by starting a bunch of drama on the Falcons’ sidelines in his team’s 31-17 defeat at the Georgia Dome on Sunday, then had the gall to whine that Atlanta coach Mike Smith had “put his hands on me in a harmful way.” Cue the violins. I’ve repeatedly watched the video of the incident, which began after Redskins safety LaRon Landry put a late hit on Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan on the Atlanta sideline, and I’m having a really hard time believing that Hall’s planned complaint to the NFL about Smith will be met by anything but laughter. … The opposing sideline is off-limits; even Landry had the good sense to leave after his cheap shot on Ryan. Hall made a point of coming over and getting involved, and then he acted surprised that former teammates and others wanted him gone.”

DON BANKS, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED:

“And speaking of brainless, how transparent was it of Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall to go over and mix it up on the Atlanta sideline after Washington safety LaRon Landry got flagged for a late out of bounds hit on Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan? … Hall, the ex-Falcon who left Atlanta for Oakland in 2008 with bruised feelings intact, wound up pretty much tussling with Falcons head coach Mike Smith, who’s never afraid to mix it up. And here I thought it was Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff that Hall had a grudge against, given his pointed comments of last week.”

CHRIS NEEDHAM: NBCWASHINGTON.COM

“How low was yesterday’s loss? We found out that even the Falcons’ coach is tougher than the Redskins. … DeAngelo Hall, the Skins cornerback, is afraid of the Falcons’ 50-year-old silver-haired head coach, Mike Smith. Smith, Hall alleges, roughed him up on the sideline during a skirmish and said a bad word to him. A bad word!”

BARRY SVRLUGA, WASHINGTON POST

“[Hall] has a penchant for drama, and though there were more costly plays in the Redskins’ 31-17 loss to the Falcons, none better typified Washington’s utter loss of self-control than Hall’s mix-up with the Atlanta coaching staff and players.”



Seems like very few are still in denial about who Hall really is.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

All this writers must be wrong on Hall's assessment, by the way on the thread "what do you expect at the Atlanta game" I posted I expect Hall to get a personal foul somehow. Guess what? Is that a coincidence?

Dude just give up...

From ESPN's Play-by-Play: 3rd and 3 at ATL 40 (Shotgun) M.Ryan scrambles right end ran ob at ATL 44 for 4 yards (L.Landry). PENALTY on WAS-L.Landry, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at ATL 44. Penalty on WAS-A.Haynesworth, Unnecessary Roughness, declined.

I think the funniest think is that I'm not absolving Hall whatsoever, because I'm sure he played his part in this scuffle. It's just that I find the ATL bench just as guilty, and Landry for causing this whole thing in the first place. I'm sure the NFL will side with you and punish just Hall.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Dude just give up...

You too cause it's gonna worse as the season progresses. Can't wait till Oakland.

[BDBohnzie]

All the writers...I see 3. And for the most part, I'm willing to bet they are writing without getting both sides of the story and going with what they think happened.

There are 3 sides to every story. In the case, we have Hall's side, the Falcons' side, and the truth. Obviously Hall has his demons from the past, and obviously the writers above see who was involved and immediately link it to Hall's Past as opposed to getting all the facts before writing.

Quite frankly I imagine Hall followed up on the play in efforts to get Landry out of the melee. Ensuing actions led to either Hall or a Falcons' player talking trash, and then further melee commenced, knowing that they'd either get a rise out of Hall.

I'm not trying to discredit Hall, but I'm not going to place 100% of the blame on him either. Yeah he's a punk, but that doesn't mean that he's going to cause a strength coach to hold him against his will every single time he's on the opposite sideline either.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You too cause it's gonna worse as the season progresses. Can't wait till Oakland.

Well you expected a personal foul and it didn't happen, so what do you have to say about that?

You better hope that Hall drop kicks someone at the Oakland game. Actually, I do too, because I'm sick of being logical with you Hall haters.

I'm sure whatever wrong or right Hall does, you'll be complaining about it.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well you expected a personal foul and it didn't happen, so what do you have to say about that?

You better hope that Hall drop kicks someone at the Oakland game. Actually, I do too, because I'm sick of being logical with you Hall haters.

I'm sure whatever wrong or right Hall does, you'll be complaining about it.

I hope he picks on Cable. We'll be talking, till then.

[T.O.Killa]

I think that you guys are way to harsh on Hall. In fact this should be locked or at least the title changed. Players get into fights. Coaches dont. Hall has done better than I thought. He is not supposed to be a run stopper. Thats what Landry is for. Deon Sanders, one of the best corners of all time, never was able to tackle anyone. At least Hall is not afraid to try. He does the best he can. As far as him giving up big pass plays he seems to me to be doing pretty good. I think if you want to complain keep it to Landry.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I hope he picks on Cable. We'll be talking, till then.

I'm still waiting for you to admit that you were wrong about the personal foul.

Funny that you mention Cable, I'm sure Al Davis is going to want the same thing. I can see Cable pulling a Artest-like melee. LOL.