Campbell's numbers dont lie

GTripp0012 · 10-02-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Perfect example is on his first photo where it looks like Campbell overlooked a wide open man on the sideline to throw into double coverage down the middle, it was a busted play (pressure from the backside caused him to step up, then pressure was coming from the right) and at the time of the throw there was no angle to make that throw based on JC's body position and the 3 defenders in the area. I am watching the Short Cut right now and this is a clear indication of the video telling a story that the facts don't back up.

Just got to this play. You're exactly right. Devin DID clear all the linebackers and came open. Had Campbell taken the time to set his feet, maybe he would have seen him in behind the coverage. But the play was pretty much set up to go to Kelly with Devin as the third read, and I'm not shocked that Campbell never saw him. The progression definately broke down when Samuels got beat.

For one thing, he wasn't supposed to be open (and it would never have looked differently until he actually did). Detroit's SLB simply blew the coverage and turned him loose to no one.

For another thing, this isn't a play Jason typically misses. He missed this one, but still frames don't really do him justice.

htownskinfan · 10-04-2009, 04:51 PM

what do the numbers say today?

GTripp0012 · 10-04-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

what do the numbers say today?

They are about on par with the guy making his first start.

And yeah, he was pretty inaccurate. 54.5% completion percentage isn't getting it done.

Ruhskins · 10-04-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

what do the numbers say today?

Campbell played a terrible game, but threw two TDs to win the game.

Redskin Warrior · 10-04-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Campbell played a terrible game, but threw two TDs to win the game.

you are rightpeople won't see it that way tho

dgack · 10-04-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Campbell played a terrible game, but threw two TDs to win the game.

I knew sooner or later Jason would have a game like this. It was ugly, he took chances and made a bunch of mistakes, but the team won.

Mostly I'm pissed I forgot to drop Horton and pick up Doughty in my IDP league :P

Ruhskins · 10-04-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

you are rightpeople won't see it that way tho

Well at least Campbell haters will have a reason to bitch him out instead of stretching the truth and making shit up.

Redskin Warrior · 10-04-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well at least Campbell haters will have a reason to bitch him out instead of stretching the truth and making shit up.

yeah but they won't overlook the 3 ints to see if he doesn't make that throw we don't win either. he did look bad in the first half.

Dirtbag59 · 10-04-2009, 05:35 PM

I honestly just want to see what Todd Collins can bring to the table, but I'll admit we should stick with JC for now.

Ruhskins · 10-04-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I honestly just want to see what Todd Collins can bring to the table, but I'll admit we should stick with JC for now.

I was ready to call for Collins in the second half, but JC made some plays. Honestly, I don't think Collins brings much though.

SC Skins Fan · 10-04-2009, 05:46 PM

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

CRedskinsRule · 10-04-2009, 05:50 PM

it's still Zorn talking about needing to get in a rythm, just call the game and let the players play. he talks like he needs a half just to figure out what the defense is going to do.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-04-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010.

Has he beaten any ranked team this year? I actually saw a report on him when he was in high school. Very impressive kid. He might be our best bet with the injury to Bradford who I thought was the most NFl eady QB. But having a injury to your throwing shoulder is not a good thing. i.e., Chad Pennington

Tebow and McCoy are good because of their athleticsm. But they wont be able to run like they do in college. So that will take away some of their affectiveness.

So Clausen might be the best bet. But lets see how he does against USC. They have lost only one game and still aren't ranked int he BCS top 25. Says a lot. Need to see him in a big game.

Paintrain · 10-04-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I honestly just want to see what Todd Collins can bring to the table, but I'll admit we should stick with JC for now.

Campbell played pretty terribly today, no question. What do you think a 39 year old career backup brings to the table? There's a reason he's been a backup for 10+ years. Campbell gives us the best chance to win. Period.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-04-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

it's still Zorn talking about needing to get in a rythm, just call the game and let the players play. he talks like he needs a half just to figure out what the defense is going to do.

I also think he needs to be the coach instead of trying to play through the QB. That might be the problem. Let the plays develop naturally. Dont tell him to look for a receiver. Tell him to make his progressions and create some type of progression drill or something. Where the are liek one mississippi next receiver two mississippi..something..LMAO (maybe not as long as a mississippi) But some type of timing mechanism. I don tknow I am not a coach. But he is a QB coach so he needs to come up with that. Don't tell him to go to anyone or this play is for this person or that person. Its for the person who is open.

Like D Hall said. "Coaches can't be players and players can't be coaches".

Which makes total sense.

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SC Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,555	Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Campbell did not see the field at all today. He was a complete mess. The throw to Moss was fine and all, but it was a one-on-one, double move. He did not have to make any reads on that play. That was as bad a game as you will see from an NFL QB not named Jamarcus Russell (or maybe Josh Johnson). Point being, that is not a game that you get from a QB that is in his 5th season and is playing a horrible pass defense. The guy is a complete mess, mentally, physically, everything is bad. You are watching the end of Jason Campbell in Washington, D.C. Jimmy Clausen in 2010. __________________ It has taken a long time, but I have finally realized that nothing I say about the Redskins will have any effect upon anything the Redskins do.

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CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,384	Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie it's still Zorn talking about needing to get in a rythm, just call the game and let the players play. he talks like he needs a half just to figure out what the defense is going to do.

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