Sleeper: Redskins WR corp

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-10-2009, 03:02 PM

This is going to be a good year. For some reason I have alot of faith this year. Different from the last few. I think it may have something to do with Zorn, the way it seems our draft picks have been successful (by this I mean not only early round but also the late round gems), and how well I think JC can play.

When you think that for the last 4 years the only players you really had to worry about on our O is Moss, Portis, Colley. Now that it seems we have some playmakers on that side of the ball. Getting those young guys in early along while bringing ARE along in the slot, should really take some of the pressure off the running game which in turn benefits Portis being able to get some good looks when he does get the ball, double teams might not be so prevelant with Moss, and Cooley can continue to roast LBs.

That brings us to the Defense. They should be dominant once again. We could win the division this year. Then who knows?

53Fan · 09-10-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

One word -----------> KNEE

If Malcolm Kelly's need stays healthy, the offense will move the ball compared to last year, period.

Well I think he has a healthy need to get the ball and show what he can do.

Mechanix544 · 09-10-2009, 08:58 PM

I think that the skins will be just fine this year. I really like the idea of our DT and DE's getting more sacks, which causes more turnovers and more punts. That equals many more chances for our offense than last year. And if our O Line can just keep JC on his feet, say, 25% more than last year, hes gonna be a definite top 10 QB this year. Overall, I think our defense will cut the PPG of opposing teams by at least 4 points a game. Our offense should increase PPG by 5.5 to 6. That is a nice swing compared to last year, and with a season under their belt, shoot, sky is the limit.

Dont u like flying under the radar tho? Then all the naysayers jump on board...... act like they aren't suprised. I can just see it this year when we make it to 4-0 or 5-1. "THEY HAVENT PLAYED ANYBODY, BLAH BLAH BLAH....."
We will finish out the year much better than last years debacle tho.

Nothin but optimism here m8!!

53Fan · 09-10-2009, 09:02 PM

^ I agree. Good post!

dgack · 09-10-2009, 09:42 PM

Well, I picked up Marko in my dynasty league draft this year. Hopefully I can afford to hold him for 2-3 years...

Lotus · 09-10-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I think that the skins will be just fine this year. I really like the idea of our DT and DE's getting more sacks, which causes more turnovers and more punts. That equals many more chances for our offense than last year. And if our O Line can just keep JC on his feet, say, 25% more than last year, hes gonna be a definite top 10 QB this year. Overall, I think our defense will cut the PPG of opposing teams by at least 4 points a game. Our offense should increase PPG by 5.5 to 6. That is a nice swing compared to last year, and with a season under their belt, shoot, sky is the limit.

Dont u like flying under the radar tho? Then all the naysayers jump on board...... act like they aren't suprised. I can just see it this year when we make it to 4-0 or 5-1. "THEY HAVENT PLAYED ANYBODY, BLAH BLAH BLAH....."
We will finish out the year much better than last years debacle tho.

Nothin but optimism here m8!!

In 1991 no one was talking about us...until we were 11-0 and headed towards a Super Bowl victory.

Under the radar is good.

Beemnseven · 09-10-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

In 1991 no one was talking about us...until we were 11-0 and headed towards a Super Bowl victory.

Under the radar is good.

That's not exactly true -- I remember we were supposed to be in contention in '91.

Lotus · 09-11-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

That's not exactly true -- I remember we were supposed to be in contention in '91.

In 1990 the Giants won 13 games and the Super Bowl. The 49ers went 14-2. The Bills were in their Super Bowl run heyday. Therefore at the start of the 1991 season the prognosticators were all about those three teams, not us. We weren't getting much love.

Watch the "America's Game" episode on the '91 season. Several players talk about being under the radar. They even show a contemporaneous interview in which Rypien is asked about how the team could have gone under the radar for so long.

Beemnseven · 09-11-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

In 1990 the Giants won 13 games and the Super Bowl. The 49ers went 14-2. The Bills were in their Super Bowl run heyday. Therefore at the start of the 1991 season the prognosticators were all about those three teams, not us. We weren't getting much love.

Watch the "America's Game" episode on the '91 season. Several players talk about being under the radar. They even show a contemporaneous interview in which Rypien is asked about how the team could have gone under the radar for so long.

You and I must have heard different things. Chris Collinsworth predicted we would win the Super Bowl on Inside the NFL. I had one of those preseason magazines at the time (can't remember which one) which said we'd be in the running for a championship.

In 1990 we were a game away from the NFC Championship -- we had a veteran team with a future HOF head coach, and the Giants were aging and without Bill Parcells. Yes, the Bills were obviously getting some well deserved hype. Ditto the 49ers who were in the midst of a dynasty.

Either way, it just isn't true that "NO ONE" was talking about us.

dmvskinzfan08 · 09-11-2009, 04:29 AM

I see us easily going 10-6 this season. Honestly. I think the most tricky games to pick are the games vs the Eagles. Our O-Line is old but crafty. Our backups are decent. But I would hope all the backups wouldn't have to start at once. Back up duty mainly. Another thing is that we are startng off the season realtively healthy besides Carlos.

D should be fine. I hope D. Hall has a good season.

I think we really might be a extremely under-rated team.

MTK · 09-11-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

You and I must have heard different things. Chris Collinsworth predicted we would win the Super Bowl on Inside the NFL. I had one of those preseason magazines at the time (can't remember which one) which said we'd be in the running for a championship.

In 1990 we were a game away from the NFC Championship -- we had a veteran team with a future HOF head coach, and the Giants were aging and without Bill Parcells. Yes, the Bills were obviously getting some well deserved hype. Ditto the 49ers who were in the midst of a dynasty.

Either way, it just isn't true that "NO ONE" was talking about us.

Yeah I recall the Skins being a preseason pick by some mags to win it all. They didn't exactly come out of nowhere.

Lotus · 09-11-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

You and I must have heard different things. Chris Collinsworth predicted we would win the Super Bowl on Inside the NFL. I had one of those preseason magazines at the time (can't remember which one) which said we'd be in the running for a championship.

In 1990 we were a game away from the NFC Championship -- we had a veteran team with a future HOF head coach, and the Giants were aging and without Bill Parcells. Yes, the Bills were obviously getting some well deserved hype. Ditto the 49ers who were in the midst of a dynasty.

Either way, it just isn't true that "NO ONE" was talking about us.

And this year Florio predicts us to go to the Super Bowl, yet the vast majority of prognosticators predict much worse for us. The Sporting News had us at 4-12.

The fact is that, overall, we are pretty much under the radar of most people right now. There are exceptions in terms of prognostication, as always, but exceptions do not prove the rule.

And in 1991, it was not too much different. Some people predicted us to be quite good, but most people were talking about other teams in terms of Super Bowl championships.

As I mentioned before, Rypien was interviewed about how the Skins were "flying under the radar." Who was the interviewer? Collinsworth. So Collinsworth may have predicted us to be champs but, at the time, he also recognized that his voice was in the minority.

SmootSmack · 09-11-2009, 09:13 AM

This was one of the classic moments in Redskins preseason history (audio is poor)

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-11-2009, 11:01 AM

SS^ That is classic Joe Gibbs right there.

Beemnseven · 09-11-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

And this year Florio predicts us to go to the Super Bowl, yet the vast majority of prognosticators predict much worse for us. The Sporting News had us at 4-12.

The fact is that, overall, we are pretty much under the radar of most people right now. There are exceptions in terms of prognostication, as always, but exceptions do not prove the rule.

And in 1991, it was not too much different. Some people predicted us to be quite good, but most people were talking about other teams in terms of Super Bowl championships.

As I mentioned before, Rypien was interviewed about how the Skins were "flying under the radar." Who was the interviewer? Collinsworth. So Collinsworth may have predicted us to be champs but, at the time, he also recognized that his voice was in the minority.

"Flying under the radar" isn't the same as "no one was talking about us."

Let's not forget the state of our franchise throughout the eighties. We were a consistent, tough contender; and it wasn't often that we were totally out of it. We'd been knocking on the door in the late 80's, and expectations in that era were that we'd be in the mix.

So let's not make it look like we were "getting no respect", or "nobody gave us a chance," or that "everybody was ignoring us" because it just wasn't the case.

09-10-2009, 03:02 PM	#31
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp This is going to be a good year. For some reason I have alot of faith this year. Different from the last few. I think it may have something to do with Zorn, the way it seems our draft picks have been successful (by this I mean not only early round but also the late round gems), and how well I think JC can play. When you think that for the last 4 years the only players you really had to worry about on our O is Moss, Portis, Colley. Now that it seems we have some playmakers on that side of the ball. Getting those young guys in early along while bringing ARE along in the slot, should really take some of the pressure off the running game which in turn benefits Portis being able to get some good looks when he does get the ball, double teams might not be so prevelant with Moss, and Cooley can continue to roast LBs. That brings us to the Defense. They should be dominant once again. We could win the division this year. Then who knows? __________________ Just win.

09-10-2009, 08:58 PM	#33
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp I think that the skins will be just fine this year. I really like the idea of our DT and DE's getting more sacks, which causes more turnovers and more punts. That equals many more chances for our offense than last year. And if our O Line can just keep JC on his feet, say, 25% more than last year, hes gonna be a definite top 10 QB this year. Overall, I think our defense will cut the PPG of opposing teams by at least 4 points a game. Our offense should increase PPG by 5.5 to 6. That is a nice swing compared to last year, and with a season under their belt, shoot, sky is the limit. Dont u like flying under the radar tho? Then all the naysayers jump on board...... act like they aren't suprised. I can just see it this year when we make it to 4-0 or 5-1. "THEY HAVENT PLAYED ANYBODY, BLAH BLAH BLAH....." We will finish out the year much better than last years debacle tho. Nothin but optimism here m8!!

09-10-2009, 09:02 PM	#34
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp ^ I agree. Good post! __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

09-10-2009, 09:42 PM	#35
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp Well, I picked up Marko in my dynasty league draft this year. Hopefully I can afford to hold him for 2-3 years... __________________ "To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson

09-11-2009, 04:29 AM	#40
dmvskinzfan08 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 968	Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp I see us easily going 10-6 this season. Honestly. I think the most tricky games to pick are the games vs the Eagles. Our O-Line is old but crafty. Our backups are decent. But I would hope all the backups wouldn't have to start at once. Back up duty mainly. Another thing is that we are startng off the season realtively healthy besides Carlos. D should be fine. I hope D. Hall has a good season. I think we really might be a extremely under-rated team. __________________ HTTR 09 - RIP#21 HATERS << Misery Loves Company

09-11-2009, 09:13 AM	#43
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp This was one of the classic moments in Redskins preseason history (audio is poor) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-11-2009, 11:01 AM	#44
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp SS^ That is classic Joe Gibbs right there. __________________ Just win.

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