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Old 07-23-2009, 03:04 PM   #31
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I say let's get him a superbowl win for his 10th season! Who's with me!

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Old 07-23-2009, 03:10 PM   #32
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I say let's get him a superbowl win for his 10th season! Who's with me!

Yes sir! Great idea!
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:07 PM   #34
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Yeah I know there are a lot of people who think "Snyder's the GM anyway, why doesn't he just give himself the title and stop pretending like he's not."

I think the perception of him is that he's an overbearing owner to the point that he's even telling Zorn what plays to run and who to play. But the reality is that he's just like most other owners. The buck stops with him, but it takes many steps before it even gets to him.

How many owners really talk to the press during the season anyway? And what does he have to gain from it?
Ok, I'll agree that there is a general perception of him along those lines, and that much of it is likely false. But among people here on the warpath, e.g., there are still strong feelings & opinions that he has been less than exemplary in his dealings w/key people & coaches. See G. Williams & the rumors about Spags, Lavar, Coles, etc. I'd like to think the hardcore skins fans would at least try to like him. I really don't know whether to like him or not, but I think he's done more good than harm for the avg. fan over the last handful of years. (Note: I don't own any tickets!)

To answer your last question, when things that affect the team become public, Snyder, aside from the ST tragedy (which he handled w/class), only issues a statement through a spokesman, if that. I'm not saying in all cases he should step up to the podium, but his reluctance to do so only adds to what has been a fairly bad public image IMO.
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:32 PM   #35
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Ok, I'll agree that there is a general perception of him along those lines, and that much of it is likely false. But among people here on the warpath, e.g., there are still strong feelings & opinions that he has been less than exemplary in his dealings w/key people & coaches. See G. Williams & the rumors about Spags, Lavar, Coles, etc. I'd like to think the hardcore skins fans would at least try to like him. I really don't know whether to like him or not, but I think he's done more good than harm for the avg. fan over the last handful of years. (Note: I don't own any tickets!)

To answer your last question, when things that affect the team become public, Snyder, aside from the ST tragedy (which he handled w/class), only issues a statement through a spokesman, if that. I'm not saying in all cases he should step up to the podium, but his reluctance to do so only adds to what has been a fairly bad public image IMO.
As a person who has never liked Danny much, to try to like Snyder I tell myself that he's better than an owner who refuses to pay for needed talent.
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Is it just me or does a piece like this come out every summer around this time??
Seems like it, look I've never doubted his heart for the team or the game and never have I said one word about his love for his family or the way he come in to help others.
My bitch on him is one thing and only one thing,he doesn't listen to the people who know the game,you guys need a GM and need to dump Vinny.
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:46 PM   #37
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I say let's get him a superbowl win for his 10th season! Who's with me!

.........., I'll pass.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:02 PM   #38
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My bitch on him is one thing and only one thing,he doesn't listen to the people who know the game,you guys need a GM and need to dump Vinny.
What does that even mean? These are the cliched canned responses people seem to have but what do you mean he doesn't listen to the people who know the game or we need a GM
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:19 PM   #39
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Re: 10 Years of Snyder-AP Interview

Yea, he doesn't listen to people who know the game? Says who?

We all know how important first impressions are. Unfortunately for Snyder, he gave the public less than favorable first impressions his first 5 years or so. He has changed his ways to have more restraint in every aspect of his ownership. Knowledgeable fans realize this. However, the general public will not give him credit, until we start winning more consistently.

I feel kind of bad for him even though I used to hate him. He's done all the right things lately, with little payoff in the wins column. Hopefully that starts to change soon, I have a feeling it might.
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:35 PM   #40
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Yea, he doesn't listen to people who know the game? Says who?

We all know how important first impressions are. Unfortunately for Snyder, he gave the public less than favorable first impressions his first 5 years or so. He has changed his ways to have more restraint in every aspect of his ownership. Knowledgeable fans realize this. However, the general public will not give him credit, until we start winning more consistently.

I feel kind of bad for him even though I used to hate him. He's done all the right things lately, with little payoff in the wins column. Hopefully that starts to change soon, I have a feeling it might.
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Old 07-23-2009, 11:22 PM   #41
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I have mixed feelings about Snyder. On the one hand, he's generous with those in his good graces, is actively involved in charities, and is unquestionably a die-hard Redskins fan. On the other hand, I've read far too many accounts of him being petty and vindictive (e.g., the Mike Nolan ice cream incident and the Coles dispute). I suppose he's like all of us; he's got some virtues and he's got some vices.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:18 AM   #42
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I think he's kind of like Kenneth the bad-ass mail clerk with the heart of gold from Family Guy. He's a good guy but puts up a front until/unless he's comfortable with you and isn't the best at one-on-one relationships (at least not early on)
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:32 AM   #43
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Re: 10 Years of Snyder-AP Interview

SGG, to your point about Snyder being petty and vindictive, I listened to an interview with Bert Sugar, the long-time boxing commentator, who said that he ran into Snyder once and introduced himself by saying, "Dan, howya doin', Burt Sugar," -- Sugar tried to shake his hand. Apparently, Dan snapped, "IT'S MR. SNYDER," and walked away. Needless to say, Sugar doesn't have a good things to say about him.

I don't have an opinion of him personally. I just look at the scoreboard:

76 wins, 84 losses. And that's being generous. Because the '99 season shouldn't count.

He's the owner of a team that is consistenly average year in and year out. Unless there's a fundamental change in the way he does things, I fear that's all this team ever will be under his reign.
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SGG, to your point about Snyder being petty and vindictive, I listened to an interview with Bert Sugar, the long-time boxing commentator, who said that he ran into Snyder once and introduced himself by saying, "Dan, howya doin', Burt Sugar," -- Sugar tried to shake his hand. Apparently, Dan snapped, "IT'S MR. SNYDER," and walked away. Needless to say, Sugar doesn't have a good things to say about him.

I don't have an opinion of him personally. I just look at the scoreboard:

76 wins, 84 losses. And that's being generous. Because the '99 season shouldn't count.

He's the owner of a team that is consistenly average year in and year out. Unless there's a fundamental change in the way he does things, I fear that's all this team ever will be under his reign.
Ok, so I am definitely a Snyder apologist, like I said earlier, I don't know how many 34 year olds can come into the NFL and make it as a head coach, let alone running one of the most storied franchises in the league. I think that we should all realize that he didn't run the Skins deep into the ground and alienate the whole fanbase, just as he didn't run us to 3 or 4 SB titles, or even Division Titles. He went through a lot of growing pains as his feet tried to fill some awfully big shoes left by Jack Kent Cooke Jr.

That being said, the 76-84 mark just isn't going away, and the only thing that will ever change most peoples opinion is if the team starts having consistent success like the 80's/early 90's.

Compare Snyder's first 10 years to JJ's first 10 years. The Cowboys got to 4 SB, won 3, early in JJ's tenure, but that mainly covered over JJ's many flaws, and gives him solice that his way works, vs DS whose flaws were open, and by all evidence (in my eyes) he is really working through what it means to be a SB caliber owner.
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:03 AM   #45
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I don't have an opinion of him personally. I just look at the scoreboard:

76 wins, 84 losses. And that's being generous. Because the '99 season shouldn't count.

He's the owner of a team that is consistenly average year in and year out. Unless there's a fundamental change in the way he does things, I fear that's all this team ever will be under his reign.
Beemnseven, you took the words right off of my keyboard! 76 and 84!
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