10 Years of Snyder-AP Interview

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Also, didn't we just try and trade the house and kitchen sink for Jay Cutler? I don't think he learned that from Gibbs. Every time you buy into the Snyder has changed line you wake up to read about us trying to trade two number one picks for Chad Johnson, or something else crazy. So I'm not convinced he's learned his lesson completely.

I thought the reason we did not get him was because we where not willing to trade the house and sink.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

IDK but I find it hard to beleive someone is not tracking the ROI on a $100 million purchase.

Even if they are I can't believe AH's merch sales would come anywhere near justifying the contract. That's just not a sound investment if that's what they are thinking.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Hmmm... ok lets say he signs Albert to $100m (which he did) how much money does he make off that signing. Think jersey sales, ticket slaes, etc. It gets fans pumped up for the upcoming season which translates into dollars. I am not saying he signed AH just to make money but he sure didn't do it to lose money.

I really don't think Snyder signs guys with a thought of selling jerseys. He wants to win and proves it by the money he puts into the team. Sure he's a business man but I think he signs guys so he can win first and market second. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, jersey sales are more for the skill guys, not lineman.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really don't think Snyder signs guys with a thought of selling jerseys. He wants to win and proves it by the money he puts into the team. Sure he's a business man but I think he signs guys so he can win first and market second. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, jersey sales are more for the skill guys, not lineman.

Right, and if it was just about selling jerseys we'd be going after guys like Mike Vick and Terrell Owens. Who really thinks he approved going after Hunter Smith and Derrick Dockery with the thought of "Hunter Smith jerseys are going to fly off the shelf!"

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Right, and if it was just about selling jerseys we'd be going after guys like Mike Vick and Terrell Owens. Who really thinks he approved going after Hunter Smith and Derrick Dockery with the thought of "Hunter Smith jerseys are going to fly off the shelf!"

I tell you what H. Smith may be my next Jersey. I was and still am excited that we got him.

As to the rest of the Jersey discussion, if just signing A Haynesworth brought in 100million in jersey sales, then the low end revenue teams would do that. ie Bills bringing TO in, that was a jersey signing. AH was just the best available, and DS sunk his money into him. Heres hoping it pays off bigtime for him.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Even if they are I can't believe AH's merch sales would come anywhere near justifying the contract. That's just not a sound investment if that's what they are thinking.

Merch sales are just a piece of the revenue pie, he still has a lot of club seats for sale and AH type signing creates a buzz that helps move the sale of those seats.

I will say it again you don't sign a AH type contract thinking you are losing money. AH creates wins/buzz and wins/buzz help fuel the revenue machine.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought the reason we did not get him was because we where not willing to trade the house and sink.

im pretty sure we offered them 2 1st rounders or a 1st and conditional 3rd that could have become a 1st. the bengals said no.

DS is what he is, a young owner who used to not hide his hands-on approach to running an NFL team. i dont think DS has changed that much, the only real change i see is that he doesnt put himself and his actions out in public as much but you still hear about how he is at every dinner meeting with any potential player.

do you really think he doesnt tell cerrato what he thinks after meeting with a player?

do you really think cerrato doesnt weigh heavily what his boss DS's thinks?

yeah i like that he likes to spend money but when the discussion of "you can't buy a championship" comes up a picture of the DS pops up. it could be worse, it could be better. but i dont think DS has changed his stripes that much given the offseason of signings and failed trade attempts this year.

go skins!!

[53Fan]

I think Snyder has matured somewhat. But just when I'm starting to feel really good about him he does something assinine. At least he's learned to pull back a little and not give up the farm just to get what he wants at the time. (Cutler-Sanchez) I guess that's progress. He's still a little scary though.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought the reason we did not get him was because we where not willing to trade the house and sink.

And nobody wanted Campbell in a trade, but seriously every time Redskins are "interested" Synder is immediately bashed for offering too much when in some cases there might have been no offers just interest.

[SmootSmack]

Do people think that other owners don't meet with free agents and draft picks as a final decision is about to be made or that other owners aren't consulted by their coaches/front office before a final decision is made?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do people think that other owners don't meet with free agents and draft picks as a final decision is about to be made or that other owners aren't consulted by their coaches/front office before a final decision is made?

I would think most people can reason out that most of what Snyder gets killed for now is crap. He's just another owner doing ownerly things. The media gets great traction out of bashing him and celebrating the wining and dining comes FA time ...it's easy and effective and now perception has become reality. What it some down to though is that we care so damn much. The Lerners suck donkey balls but no one cares too much. Snyder does the exact opposite of them and everyone hates him. Go figure.

[SFREDSKIN]

He has had some events in his life the last couple of years, I believe like he mentioned that those episodes have made him mature and look at life in a different way. Now lets get the ship straighten out and win some SB's.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

IDK but I find it hard to beleive someone is not tracking the ROI on a $100 million purchase.

Other than individual jersey sales how can you accurately attribute anything to a player move?

[Paintrain]

Progress does not equal perfection. Let's think Snyder '01 and Cutler comes available. Do you think he would have hesitated to send 2 first round and 2 second round picks plus a player to Denver just to get his man? How about if it was Sanchez, he would have traded next year's #1 without blinking.

He is and always will be aggressive when it comes to acquiring players, but rather than being reckless, he's now more measured.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

...

do you really think he doesnt tell cerrato what he thinks after meeting with a player?

do you really think cerrato doesnt weigh heavily what his boss DS's thinks?
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go skins!!

I know the owner of the company I work for (my boss) tells me what he thinks of items that come up, I know it weighs heavily on what I do. I don't think that is wrong. What is important, is that he, DS, is in the process of learning so that when he speaks, it has a basis in football reality, not fan based reality.

I have no problem with an owner being involved, as long as he is knowledgeable. I think Dan is growing that way.