I think this might be our answer for OLB... (Greg Ellis?)

[BigRedskinDaddy]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Harkening back to last season, if the Skins lose two OLB's to major injuries on the first day of training camp, Greg Ellis will be acquired immediately.

Other than that, I'd be surprised...

Indeed. He would then proceed to have his worst year ever as a pro, leave after one lollygagging season...and diss the hell out of the 'Skins organization, coaches and most of the players.

Hmm. Now where have I seen that before?

[DBUCHANON101]

We had the chance to get a good LB in the draft, we passed and now we either have to see who hits the wire when the cuts begin or sign a FA now. Id like to see us bring in a OLB and keep RAK at DE.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

We had the chance to get a good LB in the draft, we passed and now we either have to see who hits the wire when the cuts begin or sign a FA now. Id like to see us bring in a OLB and keep RAK at DE.

I'm still not over how we drafted our second day picks either and I have serious concerns with RAK at OLB...but Im fully against throwing away future draft picks for a player right now especially Ellis. Cuts is going to be the way to go at this point with bringing in a ready-to-play starter at OLB.

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

New rule: if we're going to suggest players who would make sense at OLB in our 4-3 defense, they have to be a better player than Marcus Washington. Who is still a free agent.

Dude Marcus Washington cant even stay on the field without hurting something. Ill take Ellis and 20.5 sacks over the last 2 seasons than a LB who has only started 20 of 32 games the last 2 seasons.

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I will only have reactionary posts from here on out.

Nice job taking a post out of context and twisting it. I just dont like when actual stats are broken down to change the outlook on a player.

When someone takes a player who had 8 sacks last year and then acts like he really only had 3.5 because he had 4.5 in two games I find it odd. Its like the 4.5 sacks shouldnt count because he had two big games vs division rivals. Hell injury prone Taylor had 3.5 and Carter had only 4 last year. Kinda sad when you take away 4.5 sacks from a guy and hes still just as good as what we had last year from both end spots.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Dude Marcus Washington cant even stay on the field without hurting something. Ill take Ellis and 20.5 sacks over the last 2 seasons than a LB who has only started 20 of 32 games the last 2 seasons.



Nice job taking a post out of context and twisting it. I just dont like when actual stats are broken down to change the outlook on a player.
When someone takes a player who had 8 sacks last year and then acts like he really only had 3.5 because he had 4.5 in two games I find it odd. Its like the 4.5 sacks shouldnt count because he had two big games vs division rivals. Hell injury prone Taylor had 3.5 and Carter had only 4 last year. Kinda sad when you take away 4.5 sacks from a guy and hes still just as good as what we had last year from both end spots.

Yeah stats are a funny thing. They can be used to make a variety of points. For example, if you go back 3 years instead of 2, Ellis played in a total of 2 more games than Marcus. 2. Not much of a difference really. As far as sacks, they were used completely different. Blache had different plans for Marcus than the way he had been used before. He wanted him to do more of the "grunt" work the way I understood it. Such as taking out the guard on sweeps. The MLB is expected to make a lot of plays in this defense. If Ellis played for Blache the last couple of years the way Marcus was used, I doubt his sack total would have been as high. He looks like he can still play in the right system, but unless Blache changes what he expects out of the SAM position, hopefully he does if he plays Orakpo there, then he wouldn't have the kind of year he's had in the past.

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Yeah stats are a funny thing. They can be used to make a variety of points. For example, if you go back 3 years instead of 2, Ellis played in a total of 2 more games than Marcus. 2. Not much of a difference really. As far as sacks, they were used completely different. Blache had different plans for Marcus than the way he had been used before. He wanted him to do more of the "grunt" work the way I understood it. Such as taking out the guard on sweeps. The MLB is expected to make a lot of plays in this defense. If Ellis played for Blache the last couple of years the way Marcus was used, I doubt his sack total would have been as high. He looks like he can still play in the right system, but unless Blache changes what he expects out of the SAM position, hopefully he does if he plays Orakpo there, then he wouldn't have the kind of year he's had in the past.

Those are great points. I didnt realize Ellis only played in 9 games in 2006. I was going off the last 2 seasons Ellis has had and that he can still make plays compared to Washington. The problem with Marcus Washington imo is that he hasnt been the same LB since 2005. From the 06 season up til the time he was released he was a shell of his former self imo. Hopefully Blache wouldnt play Ellis like he played Washington if Ellis was here the last couple years.

I think Ellis could play either SLB or WLB for us. If it was me id move Rocky to SLB and Ellis to WLB. This is just my opinion if it happened since I know the chances of the Skins trading or signing Ellis would be slim to none.

If we could re-sign Marcus for the vet min I wouldnt mind bringing him in and giving him another shot. If he can stay healthy he can be a solid player for us. If he gets hurt again cut him before the season.

[DBUCHANON101]

Dallas Cowboys release defensive end/linebacker Greg Ellis.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Dallas Cowboys release defensive end/linebacker Greg Ellis.

Confirmed?

[DBUCHANON101]

Im trying to get more of a concrete answer but i saw this on nola.com

[53Fan]

All I can find is he WILL be released or traded. Also mentions he would rather play DE than LB. Cowboys plan to release or trade DE Ellis after 11 seasons together

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

All I can find is he WILL be released or traded. Also mentions he would rather play DE than LB. Cowboys plan to release or trade DE Ellis after 11 seasons together

Same thing I've seen. Nothing set in stone yet as far as I know

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Same thing I've seen. Nothing set in stone yet as far as I know

ESPN is reporting the Cowboys are in no rush to release him.
Jerry Jones says Greg Ellis likely a goner from Dallas Cowboys - ESPN

[DBUCHANON101]

They want to trade him, good luck now that theyve spilled the beans that he was gone either way. Teams will just wait it out at this point.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

They want to trade him, good luck now that theyve spilled the beans that he was gone either way. Teams will just wait it out at this point.

Not necessarily. If a team wants to ensure they get him and not deal with a team higher on the waiver priority list getting him a trade can happen. See Erasmus James

[DBUCHANON101]

True, But id like to think if the FO did want to make a run for him they wouldnt give too much. We need our picks next yr.