Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

SmootSmack · 01-27-2009, 05:32 PM

Most of what JLC wrote we've been talking about for a while here. And it's really only deflating because we all want that quick fix every second of every game.

WaldSkins · 01-27-2009, 05:41 PM

By reading this article it sounds like we don't have an area that doesn't need some attention.

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-27-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

By reading this article it sounds like we don't have an area that doesn't need some attention.

and evidently we've decided not to address alot of these areas for some reason.

SBXVII · 01-27-2009, 06:19 PM

I know an area that does not effect the CAP. ...lol..WR Coach. lol. siranara. lol.

Dirtbag59 · 01-27-2009, 06:50 PM

I still relish in the idea of Vinny sitting at the end of the table with everyone in the room asking with a straight face "so why did we faulter during the second half of the season." Joe Bugels getting held back, Stan Hixon's hiding under the table, Zorn's curled up in the fetal position, Blache is yelling obscenities and asking why doesn't he have the new Defensive Tackle he's been asking for the last few years, all the while Snyder is counting his money.

Trample the Elderly · 01-27-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I tried to tell y'all this by creating this thread, but I ended up with a bunch of "No dude, we'll cut this guy and that guy and that guy and turn our whole team over and we'll be good to go" posts.

I ain't going to say "I told you so" yet, not until we actually see what they do. But the numbers - by and large - tell the tale.

Well you educated me Schneed. I thought we could completely cut all of the elderly offensive line-men. After learning about the cap I see we can't do it all in one off season. After studying the numbers you put up it's apparent what's going to happen.

GMScud · 01-27-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I still relish in the idea of Vinny sitting at the end of the table with everyone in the room asking with a straight face "so why did we faulter during the second half of the season." Joe Bugels getting held back, Stan Hixon's hiding under the table, Zorn's curled up in the fetal position, Blache is yelling obscenities and asking why doesn't he have the new Defensive Tackle he's been asking for the last few years, all the while Snyder is counting his money.

LMAO. I pictured it with all those you mentioned as characters from one of those political cartoons. Good stuff.

Trample the Elderly · 01-27-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

By reading this article it sounds like we don't have an area that doesn't need some attention.

I wouldn't say that. Our secondary is pretty good. They couldn't trait bait Rogers if he was garbage. Our defensive line is holding up a lot better than the O and we do have younger players there ready to step up.

WaldSkins · 01-27-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I wouldn't say that. Our secondary is pretty good. They couldn't trait bait Rogers if he was garbage. Our defensive line is holding up a lot better than the O and we do have younger players there ready to step up.

1.) Yea our secondary is good ,WITH Rogers.
2.) "Our defensive line is holding up a lot better than the O"- Big deal it's not like our D-line is good, it's just better then our awful Oline

The Goat · 01-29-2009, 12:31 AM

Well maybe I'm just feeling optimistic cause i ducked out early today from the office but I actually see positives in this article.

First to dispose of the unequivocal downers: 1) Rinehart. W T F. A third round o-lineman should be ready by his 2nd year. I'd call him a bust officially and being that he came from small ball in the f'd up college divisions someone in the FO decided to take the chance on this guy... damn it! If he's not even providing depth the way Stephen "Baby Fat" Heyer could as a rookie maybe Rinehart should be dropped. Just wondering out loud. 2) Marcus and the FO, evidently, want to go separate ways. One of my favorite team personalities and a guy I thought we could cut/resign or restructure on the cheap. Oh well.

On to the possitives...

1). It's great the coaches/FO recognize JJ cannot compete @ RT any longer. Like JLC said this means we probably draft one of the top 3 or 4 OTs this year. IMO that's a major upgrade to the line and therefor an overall benefit for the offense... i like it. But secondly it means JJ can compete for an interior position and I won't be surprised if he plays and does well. Jansen has struggled w/ his lateral movement mostly from what I can tell. He should be more effective on the inside w/ less "space" around him and he's still a very good run blocker. Thomas is back for sure cause of the cap, so be it, I hope JJ is our other guard unless we luck out and get a quality value starter in FA. Kendell's age and inability to practice w/ the squad should mean he's headed down the road.

2) It's good news Taylor and Springs are likely to move on (based on their greed but any reason is fine by me). It frees up a ton of cap space giving us at least some hope of FA signings. Also both players have negatives. Springs' are more obvious in terms of injuries but Taylor also has negatives as I'm not convinced he's a great fit in our system. AC does a solid job on his side, but we need help at left end. Nothing mentioned about Daniels in there which worries me. As much as I like him the age/injury factor is too big. Cutting Daniels also frees up more cap room to sign a value DE as his replacement.

... last positive to Springs refusing to restructure is it should keep Los here. Great news IMO.

3) Glad to hear Griff will be back. He was a GD warrior for us last year regardless of stats. Signing a monster tackle would be a nice luxury but doesn't count as a priority. Golston and Monty will continue to improve and Griff will be back. An upgrade at DE, which seems more likely now w/ Taylor's situation, should improve the pass rush somewhat.

To sum up I see good things out of this, despite the uncertainties. Clearly we'll need to replace Marcus. I would like to see a OLB drafted in the 3rd rd but who knows if the kid would be ready to start (maybe a college ball guru could chime in as to who should be available). Otherwise the d looks to be on the '08 level for quality. London is the key, make no mistake about it, and while he'll be a year older he's still a tackling machine. After getting snubbed on the pro-bowl (again) i wouldn't be surprised if he played w/ a chip on his shoulder, and God willing he'll get the nod next year. Our secondary will be even better w/ Hall/Los and Horton/Landry. Los, Horton and Landry will all continue to improve and Hall brings a lot to the table... bet we have more INTs in '09 than we've had since Champ/Smoot were our corners. Basically, with a decent upgrade @ DE and a solid replacement for Marcus our D is on track.

Offensively i just hope our new franchise tackle (fingers crossed) starts immediately and dominates. I hope Jansen fights his guts out on the interior and Thomas rebounds from a down year. I hope at least one of our young wide-outs develops into a bona fide starter by opening day. But mostly I hope Zorn/Campbell can put all the pieces together and make the offense fly.

SmootSmack · 01-29-2009, 08:04 AM

Winston Justice was a 2nd round pick by the Eagles, who I don't think started until his third season and then got abused in his one start by Osi...so Rinehart isn't alone

53Fan · 01-29-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Well maybe I'm just feeling optimistic cause i ducked out early today from the office but I actually see positives in this article.

First to dispose of the unequivocal downers: 1) Rinehart. W T F. A third round o-lineman should be ready by his 2nd year. I'd call him a bust officially and being that he came from small ball in the f'd up college divisions someone in the FO decided to take the chance on this guy... damn it! If he's not even providing depth the way Stephen "Baby Fat" Heyer could as a rookie maybe Rinehart should be dropped. Just wondering out loud. 2) Marcus and the FO, evidently, want to go separate ways. One of my favorite team personalities and a guy I thought we could cut/resign or restructure on the cheap. Oh well.

On to the possitives...

1). It's great the coaches/FO recognize JJ cannot compete @ RT any longer. Like JLC said this means we probably draft one of the top 3 or 4 OTs this year. IMO that's a major upgrade to the line and therefor an overall benefit for the offense... i like it. But secondly it means JJ can compete for an interior position and I won't be surprised if he plays and does well. Jansen has struggled w/ his lateral movement mostly from what I can tell. He should be more effective on the inside w/ less "space" around him and he's still a very good run blocker. Thomas is back for sure cause of the cap, so be it, I hope JJ is our other guard unless we luck out and get a quality value starter in FA. Kendell's age and inability to practice w/ the squad should mean he's headed down the road.

2) It's good news Taylor and Springs are likely to move on (based on their greed but any reason is fine by me). It frees up a ton of cap space giving us at least some hope of FA signings. Also both players have negatives. Springs' are more obvious in terms of injuries but Taylor also has negatives as I'm not convinced he's a great fit in our system. AC does a solid job on his side, but we need help at left end. Nothing mentioned about Daniels in there which worries me. As much as I like him the age/injury factor is too big. Cutting Daniels also frees up more cap room to sign a value DE as his replacement.

... last positive to Springs refusing to restructure is it should keep Los here. Great news IMO.

3) Glad to hear Griff will be back. He was a GD warrior for us last year regardless of stats. Signing a monster tackle would be a nice luxury but doesn't count as a priority. Golston and Monty will continue to improve and Griff will be back. An upgrade at DE, which seems more likely now w/ Taylor's situation, should improve the pass rush somewhat.

To sum up I see good things out of this, despite the uncertainties. Clearly we'll need to replace Marcus. I would like to see a OLB drafted in the 3rd rd but who knows if the kid would be ready to start (maybe a college ball guru could chime in as to who should be available). Otherwise the d looks to be on the '08 level for quality. London is the key, make no mistake about it, and while he'll be a year older he's still a tackling machine. After getting snubbed on the pro-bowl (again) i wouldn't be surprised if he played w/ a chip on his shoulder, and God willing he'll get the nod next year. Our secondary will be even better w/ Hall/Los and Horton/Landry. Los, Horton and Landry will all continue to improve and Hall brings a lot to the table... bet we have more INTs in '09 than we've had since Champ/Smoot were our corners. Basically, with a decent upgrade @ DE and a solid replacement for Marcus our D is on track.

Offensively i just hope our new franchise tackle (fingers crossed) starts immediately and dominates. I hope Jansen fights his guts out on the interior and Thomas rebounds from a down year. I hope at least one of our young wide-outs develops into a bona fide starter by opening day. But mostly I hope Zorn/Campbell can put all the pieces together and make the offense fly.

Nice post Goat! I'm not quite ready to give up on Rinehart yet but I've been disappointed that he can't get on the field thusfar. I was also hoping Marcus could be resigned. I remember Blache saying, no offense to the guys playing while he was out, but Marcus brings alot more to the lb corp when he's out there. I think Landry's hammy was more of a problem this year than we knew about and I expect great things from him this year. I think R.Thomas feels he has something to prove and will have a better year than last year. I expect more turnovers this year as I'm sure the defense does also. This should be the defining year for Campbell. With better blocking and a year under their belts for the rookies, plus a full year in the WCO, if Campbell is going to show that he can lead this team, this year should show vast improvement over last year. You wear optimism well Goat. It shows in your writing.

The Goat · 02-07-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Winston Justice was a 2nd round pick by the Eagles, who I don't think started until his third season and then got abused in his one start by Osi...so Rinehart isn't alone

Well it's a bit surprising the Iggles goofed on a 2nd rounder cause i think they usually evaluate talent very well.

... no i haven't given up on Rinehart but he needs to get his ass in gear. His goal should be to replace Kendell at guard and it's that simple.

freddyg12 · 02-07-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Winston Justice was a 2nd round pick by the Eagles, who I don't think started until his third season and then got abused in his one start by Osi...so Rinehart isn't alone

true, but he could start for a lot of teams on the right side. We'll see what Philly does w/their 2 old fa tackles, if anything. Usually they let older vets walk.

Whiteboi_J · 02-10-2009, 06:51 PM

Well Thomas will be here at least another 2 years due to cap reasons (unless he retires), so Rinehart could still have another season or 2 to develop and replace Thomas at RG....but all i'm hearin' is wrong wit Rinehart is that he jus needs to grow a pair...that he's never sure of himself and doesn't play with confidence.

01-27-2009, 05:32 PM	#136
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009 Most of what JLC wrote we've been talking about for a while here. And it's really only deflating because we all want that quick fix every second of every game. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-27-2009, 05:41 PM	#137
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 41 Posts: 2,726	Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009 By reading this article it sounds like we don't have an area that doesn't need some attention. __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

01-27-2009, 06:19 PM	#139
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009 I know an area that does not effect the CAP. ...lol..WR Coach. lol. siranara. lol.

01-27-2009, 06:50 PM	#140
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009 I still relish in the idea of Vinny sitting at the end of the table with everyone in the room asking with a straight face "so why did we faulter during the second half of the season." Joe Bugels getting held back, Stan Hixon's hiding under the table, Zorn's curled up in the fetal position, Blache is yelling obscenities and asking why doesn't he have the new Defensive Tackle he's been asking for the last few years, all the while Snyder is counting his money. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

01-29-2009, 12:31 AM	#145
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009 Well maybe I'm just feeling optimistic cause i ducked out early today from the office but I actually see positives in this article. First to dispose of the unequivocal downers: 1) Rinehart. W T F. A third round o-lineman should be ready by his 2nd year. I'd call him a bust officially and being that he came from small ball in the f'd up college divisions someone in the FO decided to take the chance on this guy... damn it! If he's not even providing depth the way Stephen "Baby Fat" Heyer could as a rookie maybe Rinehart should be dropped. Just wondering out loud. 2) Marcus and the FO, evidently, want to go separate ways. One of my favorite team personalities and a guy I thought we could cut/resign or restructure on the cheap. Oh well. On to the possitives... 1). It's great the coaches/FO recognize JJ cannot compete @ RT any longer. Like JLC said this means we probably draft one of the top 3 or 4 OTs this year. IMO that's a major upgrade to the line and therefor an overall benefit for the offense... i like it. But secondly it means JJ can compete for an interior position and I won't be surprised if he plays and does well. Jansen has struggled w/ his lateral movement mostly from what I can tell. He should be more effective on the inside w/ less "space" around him and he's still a very good run blocker. Thomas is back for sure cause of the cap, so be it, I hope JJ is our other guard unless we luck out and get a quality value starter in FA. Kendell's age and inability to practice w/ the squad should mean he's headed down the road. 2) It's good news Taylor and Springs are likely to move on (based on their greed but any reason is fine by me). It frees up a ton of cap space giving us at least some hope of FA signings. Also both players have negatives. Springs' are more obvious in terms of injuries but Taylor also has negatives as I'm not convinced he's a great fit in our system. AC does a solid job on his side, but we need help at left end. Nothing mentioned about Daniels in there which worries me. As much as I like him the age/injury factor is too big. Cutting Daniels also frees up more cap room to sign a value DE as his replacement. ... last positive to Springs refusing to restructure is it should keep Los here. Great news IMO. 3) Glad to hear Griff will be back. He was a GD warrior for us last year regardless of stats. Signing a monster tackle would be a nice luxury but doesn't count as a priority. Golston and Monty will continue to improve and Griff will be back. An upgrade at DE, which seems more likely now w/ Taylor's situation, should improve the pass rush somewhat. To sum up I see good things out of this, despite the uncertainties. Clearly we'll need to replace Marcus. I would like to see a OLB drafted in the 3rd rd but who knows if the kid would be ready to start (maybe a college ball guru could chime in as to who should be available). Otherwise the d looks to be on the '08 level for quality. London is the key, make no mistake about it, and while he'll be a year older he's still a tackling machine. After getting snubbed on the pro-bowl (again) i wouldn't be surprised if he played w/ a chip on his shoulder, and God willing he'll get the nod next year. Our secondary will be even better w/ Hall/Los and Horton/Landry. Los, Horton and Landry will all continue to improve and Hall brings a lot to the table... bet we have more INTs in '09 than we've had since Champ/Smoot were our corners. Basically, with a decent upgrade @ DE and a solid replacement for Marcus our D is on track. Offensively i just hope our new franchise tackle (fingers crossed) starts immediately and dominates. I hope Jansen fights his guts out on the interior and Thomas rebounds from a down year. I hope at least one of our young wide-outs develops into a bona fide starter by opening day. But mostly I hope Zorn/Campbell can put all the pieces together and make the offense fly. __________________ 24-34

01-29-2009, 08:04 AM	#146
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009 Winston Justice was a 2nd round pick by the Eagles, who I don't think started until his third season and then got abused in his one start by Osi...so Rinehart isn't alone __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-10-2009, 06:51 PM	#150
Whiteboi_J Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, Tx Age: 39 Posts: 46	Re: Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009 Well Thomas will be here at least another 2 years due to cap reasons (unless he retires), so Rinehart could still have another season or 2 to develop and replace Thomas at RG....but all i'm hearin' is wrong wit Rinehart is that he jus needs to grow a pair...that he's never sure of himself and doesn't play with confidence.

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