RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?

[RMSkins]

I highly doubt that he would be coming in to replace Cerrato. If anything I could see him come in as an assitant to Cerrato, but why would he want to do that?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by celts32

Yea but arn't you at the point where you just want anyone new? If not why? We have had 10+ years of subpar football and we have tried replacing everyone else but him? Maybe it's not all his fault but isn't it worth a shot?

Anyone?

No, I wouldn't seek out change just for the sake of change. If we bring someone in let's bring in someone with a proven background. Not some schlub who we'll end up replacing in a few years. That makes no sense to me at all.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's what I'm trying to figure out. His drafts in TB were pretty unremarkable. If the answer is because he's not Vinny, that's not really a great reason to me to go after him.

Bruce Allen is irrelivent really...I am excited at the possibility of there being a thought in Snyders head that maybe quite possibly my front office needs a new voice. If that thought is in his head then that alone is a victory and I couldn't care less if he actually hires Allen, because I will at least know the seed is planted.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah, pro or con he is a Buccaneer castoff. So they must of rid themselves of him for some reason. I would like to know more about him though before I start wholesale endorsing.


I do like the fact that he isn't yet neutered by Danny. He still has his balls until he signs a contract. If somehow he can keep his balls away from Snyder he'll be a good hire.

In all likelyhood, he was fired because he didnt want to fire Gruden. It could be a matter of loyalty - Gruden lobbied for Allen to be brought in to Tampa Bay. Allen may have fought too hard to keep Gruden as the HC and because he didnt want to fire Gruden and the owner did, they were both gone. Thats pure speculation though.

The main attraction of Allen over Cerrato is:

1) He doesnt trade away draft picks.
2) He's not Dannys personal whipping boy
3) The fact that he's not Cerrato gives us leverage in hiring a HC to replace Zorn at some point - its been reported that Cerrato isnt well liked and its been implied that the reason Spags didnt take the job here last year was not wanting to work with Cerrato.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

I highly doubt that he would be coming in to replace Cerrato. If anything I could see him come in as an assitant to Cerrato, but why would he want to do that?

Because he has limited GM experience and there's probably not a lot of teams pounding down his door.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Anyone?

No, I wouldn't seek out change just for the sake of change. If we bring someone in let's bring in someone with a proven background. Not some schlub who we'll end up replacing in a few years. That makes no sense to me at all.

If said schlub does not get the job done then that's fine with me. I am in favor of a Redskins GM being hired or fired based on his production and nothing more. I honestly do not think we have that now. Hopefully, in the future Snyder will stick to a professional relationship only with his front office employees.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Because he has limited GM experience and there's probably not a lot of teams pounding down his door.

True, but you could also make the case that Cerrato has limited GM experience as well.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Because he has limited GM experience and there's probably not a lot of teams pounding down his door.

To my knowledge, theres only one GM opening in the NFL right now and thats in Cleaveland and theyve already got their candidate lined up. If his only option at this point is to take an assistant position, then it would stand to reason he would be interested in working for the team his father used to coach. This job is also attractive because its been rumored that this could be Cerratos last year being involved in football operations, so there is the potential for quick career advancement.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Another thought - If Allen came here in any capacity, it increases the likelyhood that John Gruden could land here - perhaps as the OC.

I'm not a huge Gruden fan, but he's certainly an upgrade over Sherman Smith. If theres one thing this offense needs, its fire. Grudens the type of guy who could definitely get guys fired up.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Because he has limited GM experience and there's probably not a lot of teams pounding down his door.

Id wait till next year, then chase Holgrem if Cerrato doesn't impress this year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

In all likelyhood, he was fired because he didnt want to fire Gruden. It could be a matter of loyalty - Gruden lobbied for Allen to be brought in to Tampa Bay. Allen may have fought too hard to keep Gruden as the HC and because he didnt want to fire Gruden and the owner did, they were both gone. Thats pure speculation though.

The main attraction of Allen over Cerrato is:

1) He doesnt trade away draft picks.
2) He's not Dannys personal whipping boy
3) The fact that he's not Cerrato gives us leverage in hiring a HC to replace Zorn at some point - its been reported that Cerrato isnt well liked and its been implied that the reason Spags didnt take the job here last year was not wanting to work with Cerrato.

You can't wait to get Zorn outta here huh

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

To my knowledge, theres only one GM opening in the NFL right now and thats in Cleaveland and theyve already got their candidate lined up. If his only option at this point is to take an assistant position, then it would stand to reason he would be interested in working for the team his father used to coach. This job is also attractive because its been rumored that this could be Cerratos last year being involved in football operations, so there is the potential for quick career advancement.

Good points. I could see this happening. I think Vinny is gradually being phased out rather than immediately pushed due to his friendship with Danny. Scott Campbell's increased role last offseason, the rumor that this is Cerrato's last year in FB ops, and now this...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Another thought - If Allen came here in any capacity, it increases the likelyhood that John Gruden could land here - perhaps as the OC.

I'm not a huge Gruden fan, but he's certainly an upgrade over Sherman Smith. If theres one thing this offense needs, its fire. Grudens the type of guy who could definitely get guys fired up.

I don't see Gruden taking an OC post. He could sit out this year and come back as HC next year for someone.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Another thought - If Allen came here in any capacity, it increases the likelyhood that John Gruden could land here - perhaps as the OC.

I'm not a huge Gruden fan, but he's certainly an upgrade over Sherman Smith. If theres one thing this offense needs, its fire. Grudens the type of guy who could definitely get guys fired up.

Gruden is also good with QBs, but in that case I'd worry about the "too many cooks in the kitchen" cliche as far as Jason Campbell is concerned. Zorn has already started molding him.

Sherman Smith and Zorn are also very close friends. I don't see Smith getting fired. I have a feeling adding Gruden to our staff would complicate more than help.

[44ever]

Way to stir the pot Skinny