Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-17-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

They are just fine. I got my son(18 months) saying "Go REDSKINS" all the time now. It comes out more like "o ehsins" but I really like the effort. He is "Super Smart".

Edit: And GM to you as well MR. Quake! How are things in NC this morning?

good my cousin is pissed cause he cant find a copy of NCAA.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 07-17-2007, 12:32 PM

I still haven't heard anyone argue the fact that our secondary will significantly bolster our pass rush:

No one can argue that our pass rush sucked last year - but don't forget that our DB situation is much, much improved with serious depth: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Maklin & Butler at CB and Taylor, Landry, Prioleau & Stoutmire at Safety. And don't forget the ever-versatile ADE at both!

Seriously, you can't tell me that the improved coverage won't lead to more time for our DE's to get to the Quarterback. IMO, if you want to improve pass rush, you can attack it from two persectives, better rushers or better coverage - the Skins went coverage.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-17-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Redskins didn't address the defensive line deficiencies in the 2007 draft. Instead they tried to plug holes with veteran retreads.

This is really the only thing that I have a problem with. How was the team supposed to address the D-line in the draft? The FO took the best player available who also filled a big hole; and after that we didn't get to pick again until the next day. If we turned down some trades or something like that I'd see what they're saying but as it went I actually think the FO did the right thing (wow, I can't believe I said that).

I bet that if we had drafted Okoye or Anderson Scouts Inc would have said we were dumb for not addressing our weak secondary in the draft.

jdlea · 07-17-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

This is really the only thing that I have a problem with. How was the team supposed to address the D-line in the draft? The FO took the best player available who also filled a big hole; and after that we didn't get to pick again until the next day. If we turned down some trades or something like that I'd see what they're saying but as it went I actually think the FO did the right thing (wow, I can't believe I said that).

I bet that if we had drafted Okoye or Anderson Scouts Inc would have said we were dumb for not addressing our weak secondary in the draft.

I understand your frustration with the commentary, but how important were the picks of Blades, Sartz, and Palmer (especially Palmer)? I think they should have used some second day picks on the D Line.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-17-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I understand your frustration with the commentary, but how important were the picks of Blades, Sartz, and Palmer (especially Palmer)? I think they should have used some second day picks on the D Line.

Sure, but would any one that they picked up with the second day picks be that much better than Golsten or Montgomery? It would have been nice for future depth, which we clearly need, but I don't think we would have picked up 3 studs.
Plus, from what people have said it sounds like Sartz could be a steal. On the ohter hand, Palmer was probably a waste of a pick.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 07-17-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Palmer was probably a waste of a pick.

Palmer was a complete waste of a pick. Clearly our biggest draft mistake was not moving up in the 6th round to pick Mason Crosby as our kicker of the future. I mean, Suisham? WTF? Does anyone know if Vanderjagt is still out there to pick up? Nothing like losing close games with a crappy kicker.

JDALY27 · 07-17-2007, 01:17 PM

We had the worst stats of any defense and no sacks last year. We turned around and did nothing personel wise to address the defensive line. By now this league thinks Gibbs has lost his marbles and this is another poke in the ribs.

Where did you expect them to rank our line?

I'm still loyal to Gibbs and company knowing that they can win with what they had.

sbaughone · 07-17-2007, 01:30 PM

The only problem with this is it assumes that the guy who wrote it (mr. anonymous...) is a better coach/talent scout than either Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams. I don't believe that to be true, or he (probably actually she...) would be making $2 million a year coaching instead of making $35k working for espn.

But if I was rating journalists I would say that espn has the worst in the USA.

SmootSmack · 07-17-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sbaughone

The only problem with this is it assumes that the guy who wrote it (mr. anonymous...) is a better coach/talent scout than either Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams. I don't believe that to be true, or he (probably actually she...) would be making $2 million a year coaching instead of making $35k working for espn.

But if I was rating journalists I would say that espn has the worst in the USA.

I take offense to that.

wilsowilso · 07-17-2007, 01:57 PM

Remember people this is the time of year when pro football fans start to lose their minds. Keep the peace.

backrow · 07-17-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

They are just fine. I got my son(18 months) saying "Go REDSKINS" all the time now. It comes out more like "o ehsins" but I really like the effort. He is "Super Smart".

I've got mine saying: "If I were to pay you all cash, and close quickly, what is the minimum you would take for this house?" Learned it all on his own, at age 28!

Now, my grandsons, that's another story. The three year old likes Lightning McQueen, and the 14 month old likes following after his older brother. There is hope, because his other Grandpa is also a fellow Skins fan.

hesscl34 · 07-17-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JDALY27

We had the worst stats of any defense and no sacks last year. We turned around and did nothing personel wise to address the defensive line. By now this league thinks Gibbs has lost his marbles and this is another poke in the ribs.

Where did you expect them to rank our line?

I'm still loyal to Gibbs and company knowing that they can win with what they had.

A. Carter had a few sacks last year.... That is more than "none". You're as bad as the boring sports writer...

hesscl34 · 07-17-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Remember people this is the time of year when pro football fans start to lose their minds. Keep the peace.

... keep the peace? yeah right....

jdlea · 07-17-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Sure, but would any one that they picked up with the second day picks be that much better than Golsten or Montgomery? It would have been nice for future depth, which we clearly need, but I don't think we would have picked up 3 studs.
Plus, from what people have said it sounds like Sartz could be a steal. On the ohter hand, Palmer was probably a waste of a pick.

I agree they wouldn't have gotten guys much better than Golston or Montgomery, however, they do need guys who could develop into decent players. At least someone to replace Salave'a would have been nice.

wilsowilso · 07-17-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

... keep the peace? yeah right....

Well yeah I know the jv debate team members can't help themselves.....

07-17-2007, 12:32 PM	#32
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league I still haven't heard anyone argue the fact that our secondary will significantly bolster our pass rush: No one can argue that our pass rush sucked last year - but don't forget that our DB situation is much, much improved with serious depth: Springs, Smoot, Rogers, Maklin & Butler at CB and Taylor, Landry, Prioleau & Stoutmire at Safety. And don't forget the ever-versatile ADE at both! Seriously, you can't tell me that the improved coverage won't lead to more time for our DE's to get to the Quarterback. IMO, if you want to improve pass rush, you can attack it from two persectives, better rushers or better coverage - the Skins went coverage.

07-17-2007, 01:17 PM	#37
JDALY27 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 45 Posts: 271	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league We had the worst stats of any defense and no sacks last year. We turned around and did nothing personel wise to address the defensive line. By now this league thinks Gibbs has lost his marbles and this is another poke in the ribs. Where did you expect them to rank our line? I'm still loyal to Gibbs and company knowing that they can win with what they had.

07-17-2007, 01:30 PM	#38
sbaughone Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 72	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league The only problem with this is it assumes that the guy who wrote it (mr. anonymous...) is a better coach/talent scout than either Joe Gibbs or Gregg Williams. I don't believe that to be true, or he (probably actually she...) would be making $2 million a year coaching instead of making $35k working for espn. But if I was rating journalists I would say that espn has the worst in the USA.

07-17-2007, 01:57 PM	#40
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league Remember people this is the time of year when pro football fans start to lose their minds. Keep the peace.

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