Jason Campbell's development

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

You're gonna give me wet dreams with that article, Matty.

ok anywayz........................................... ...............

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Could not agree w/ u more on this. We need a guy who is 6'3 or 6'4 who is a possesion wr.

no we really dont NEED that at all i mean it couldnt hurt or could it in 2005 we didnt have that what we need to bring back are those screen passes that were so efective for santana and use them for antwaan and brandon that is what we need we dont nned a 6'3 or 6'4 reciever the steelers didnt have that when they won the super bowl and neither did the pats

[dmek25]

i don't understand why people get so enamored with height. the redskins have 3 legitimate nfl starting receivers right now. when is the last time you could say that about this team? the posse?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't understand why people get so enamored with height. the redskins have 3 legitimate nfl starting receivers right now. when is the last time you could say that about this team? the posse?

that is what i have been trying to say

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Wow, if this won't get you geeked about Campbell nothing will:

NFL.com - NFL News

A CAMPBELL SPECIAL

At this time of year, during organized team activities, many players are said to look good.

But Washington quarterback Jason Campbell is said to look especially good.

After two years in the league as an understudy, and four hours each day this winter and spring in Washington's training facility simply studying, Campbell is said to look like a different quarterback, Redskins officials said this week.

One observer even predicted, boldly, that Campbell would go to the Pro Bowl this season.

Of course it's a long way from Washington in May to Hawaii in February, but Campbell has demonstrated improved technique, understanding and confidence. And after a week of OTA's, he has been the most talked about player in the Redskins organization.

"It's unanimous from everybody," one Redskins official said this week. "You can definitely see it. He's like a totally different quarterback. The receivers have been like, 'Wow.' "

Much of the credit belongs to Washington offensive coordinator Al Saunders and quarterbacks coach Bill Lazor, who have poured their energies and time into Campbell's offseason training.

But Campbell also has recognized that the Redskins need him to step up in a way that Patrick Ramsey and Mark Brunell and every other Washington quarterback in recent seasons hasn't.

So far he has. But the key will be whether he will continue it in training camp and then into the regular season.

Oh baby...

I'm beginning to salivate. Nothing impacts this game like a stud QB.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

no we really dont NEED that at all i mean it couldnt hurt or could it in 2005 we didnt have that what we need to bring back are those screen passes that were so efective for santana and use them for antwaan and brandon that is what we need we dont nned a 6'3 or 6'4 reciever the steelers didnt have that when they won the super bowl and neither did the pats

Well, the Steelers had a really really good defense. We don't. Pats have Tom Brady and a really really good defense. We don't.

The opposing defensive coordinators have caught on to that screen pass. It didn't work at all last year. Teams were waiting for it.

[Hog1]

Wow, Where's my damn bandwagon when I got some jumpin' to do?

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't understand why people get so enamored with height. the redskins have 3 legitimate nfl starting receivers right now. when is the last time you could say that about this team? the posse?

I have to go back again and dispute that Brandon Lloyd is a legitimate WR - I have posted the link to his stats for the past 4 years and I just can't see why people are enamored with the guy. If your best year was 48 receptions for 733 yds I would not call that stellar or legitimate - espescially in today's pass happy nfl. Overall he is averageing 32 receptions, 469 yds and 3.25 TD's a year - the numbers speak for themselves and if you were a GM would you honestly pick up a guy with these numbers to be your number 2 WR? Just think how much more dangerous Moss would be if he was not double covered as often as he is if we had a legitimate #2.

Blame it on the qb, blame it on the team, blame it on the system, blame it on everything else but the player - that is what a Brandon Lloyd defender does.

NFL.com - Brandon Lloyd

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Wow, if this won't get you geeked about Campbell nothing will:

I usually don't buy into the offseason hype, but reading that just got me all hot and bothered...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't understand why people get so enamored with height. the redskins have 3 legitimate nfl starting receivers right now. when is the last time you could say that about this team? the posse?

I could not disagree with you more. The Posse one year, I believe it was 89 all went over 1,000 yards. Monk is a HOFer. Clark is just below Monk. Sanders went off on Denver in the SB. All three of these guys have done in at the highest level. I don't think Lloyd and ARE have even gotten close to having 1,000 seasons. So there is no way you can put any of these guys, including Moss, in the league of the Posse. Again you are talking about one HOFer and in Clark a guy who is just below Monk. and if you ask many coaches who played against the SKins in that era Clark was the guy who teams feared most.

We have one legit NFL wr. The others, so far, have not proved to be legit NFL wr's. They certainly have the potential but they have to do it on the field on a consistent basis. If Moss can stay healthy the next few years I think he can be just as good as Clark. But he is not there yet.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DGreen28

The O needs to run the ball to make JC a success at QB

Well we may need to run the ball but this is not the 80's and early 90's. We are not going to be able to just run it down everyone's throat. W/out question we are going to need to improve our passing game. I can't remember the last time we had a 300 yard passing game. In some games the running game is not going to work and this is when you need to be able to lean on your QB.

[Redskins_P]

Thats it....my next jersey is #17 Jason Campbell. The kid is gonna be good for a loooong time.

[MonkFan4Life]

Okay honestly I think this guy is going to be really good. This could very well just be the homer in me but I just looked at the higlight film from 2006 and what he showed last year after coming off the bench to start got me to thinking. Everyone talks about how much he has improved from last year, he has legs, not Vick like but faster than anyone we've had in quite a while. The poise he showed in the pocket with pressure in his face was beautiful. One of the clips showed parts of the Giants game and he seemed very comfortable then tucking the ball when he needed to. Sorry, the articles that have been written about his offseason work and how he has improved just have me geared up for the season. I can't wait for him to show what he can do so I can shut these bastards at work up !

HAIL !

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bill B

I have to go back again and dispute that Brandon Lloyd is a legitimate WR - I have posted the link to his stats for the past 4 years and I just can't see why people are enamored with the guy. If your best year was 48 receptions for 733 yds I would not call that stellar or legitimate - espescially in today's pass happy nfl. Overall he is averageing 32 receptions, 469 yds and 3.25 TD's a year - the numbers speak for themselves and if you were a GM would you honestly pick up a guy with these numbers to be your number 2 WR? Just think how much more dangerous Moss would be if he was not double covered as often as he is if we had a legitimate #2.

Blame it on the qb, blame it on the team, blame it on the system, blame it on everything else but the player - that is what a Brandon Lloyd defender does.

NFL.com - Brandon Lloyd

Basically we gave this guy a boatload of money because of a few highlight catches.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i don't understand why people get so enamored with height. the redskins have 3 legitimate nfl starting receivers right now. when is the last time you could say that about this team? the posse?

I agree with you dmek, sort of. Height may be the most overrated characteristic in a receiver. Since a majority of a guy's value comes from after the catch play, being big and slow doesn't make you a very valuable target. Pretty much any receiver worth his salt can run to the sticks, and make a third down catch in traffic. Cooley does this better than maybe any TE in the league and Moss does it pretty well also.

However, saying we have 3 legitmate NFL starting receivers is only correct if its true for all teams. Every team in the league has at least two recievers as good as Antwaan Randle El. Does that mean we need more help at WR? Not really. We have Moss and Cooley and some very talented pass catching backs. We have enough weapons presuming we don't overvalue Randle El and Lloyd and have our offense suffer because of it. They are NFL caliber targets who can catch a pass if the playcall gets them open. But they should not be the focus of our offense when we have talent like Moss, Cooley, Betts, and Portis around.

I think you are guilty of undervaluing our role players just a tad, but I completely agree that we have everything we need for the passing game to be successful. If the guys we have now can't get into the top ten, it's time to start looking at the line, and the playcalling.