The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Congrats, you called a pick that doesn't help our needs.

What? You wanted Alan Branch (1st pick, 2nd round) at number six overall? You heard Gibbs. No teams were calling to trade up that far. If DAL got what they did from CLE what do you think would've been compensation for 6th overall?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Damn sure doesn't hurt um. He was the BEST available. NICE MOVE!

Why would it NOT help our needs?

We NEED a d line. He is another hard hitting safety. How is it we were all thrilled to get Adam Archuletta at first, then we were all thrilled to get rid of him when he didn't fit into our system? But now we went out and DRAFTED someone cut from a similar mold as AA???? That doesn't sound a little looney to you? We were better off drafting a Leon Hall type player and letting Springs play safety.
It kinda does hurt us considering YET A-FREAKIN-GAIN we will have NO pass rush. I don't know about you, that is pissing me off. How many years do we have to suffer with no pass rush before we learn. Williams can only disguise so many blitzes, and send the farm so many times. We saw how well that worked out last year.

[holcknowsbest]

brian roberson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets go mutha fudgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by jsarno

And how exactly are we going to get more draft picks when we have a 5th rounder coming up?

Trade away next year's picks.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

What? You wanted Alan Branch (1st pick, 2nd round) at number six overall? You heard Gibbs. No teams were calling to trade up that far. If DAL got what they did from CLE what do you think would've been compensation for 6th overall?

What are you talking about?
Have you not seen my other posts? I wanted Okoye or a DE like Anderson at 6. I think Landry is a fine player, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't fit our needs, and doesn't fit our system since we have Taylor.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

Trade away next year's picks.

It's time to stop messing with picks...we are always behind the 8 ball in terms of amount of draft picks.

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I wouldn't mind trading someone for WR Jarrett. I think he's the real deal. But who would we trade?

well first of all you dont think we need a safety donkey? come on man thats totally rediculous, you are the same fan who like the redskins but knows nothing about what is really going on in football buddy. and yes you dummy we dont have anthing but a 6th pick (not a 5th pal). but if you look at almost all these traded they include shit from next year....which we have all seven right now, we dont need that many hahah shit i would trade all our picks the following year every year to get better picks in the year of the draft becasue the only time that will only haert you is the final year of the nfl's life....so jsarno please dont question my expertice in this field ya donkey cause you could never match witts with me the effing draft and personnel KING!!!!!!!!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

the redskins dont play cover 2. landry will be play more to the line of scrimmage and taylor will play centerfield. one of his weaknesses is his hands hopefully he doesnt play like carlos rogers. our pressure is going to have to come the lb's and safeties so it might be the same defense from last year. i dont dislike the pick we took the best defense player on the board in opinion only time will tell.

Not to split hairs, but Greg Williams' defense is based on Cover 2 / Tampa 2 with some wrinkles thrown in. GW likes to bring pressure from the LBs and Corners, which leaves the Safties spliting the field in Cover 2. Cover 2 is not effective with a run-stopping, blitzing SS, look at how bad Arch and our pass coverage was last year.

Williams: Offenses Have Uncovered the Cover-2 - washingtonpost.com

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by holcknowsbest

well first of all you dont think we need a safety donkey? come on man thats totally rediculous, you are the same fan who like the redskins but knows nothing about what is really going on in football buddy.

Trust me, I know more than you...if you think we need another run stopping safety, you have no idea what we really need.

and yes you dummy we dont have anthing but a 6th pick (not a 5th pal).

What are you talking about? 5th ROUNDER is our next pick. Pay attention before you start calling someone else a dummy.

shit i would trade all our picks the following year every year to get better picks in the year of the draft becasue the only time that will only haert you is the final year of the nfl's life

OK, it has become obvious that after this comment, I am arguing with the Village Idiot. And we all know the saying about arguing with the village idiot.

I suggest you calm down on the name calling in the future. There is no need for it. We should all be civil here.

Have a good conversation.

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by jsarno

What are you talking about?
Have you not seen my other posts? I wanted Okoye or a DE like Anderson at 6. I think Landry is a fine player, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't fit our needs, and doesn't fit our system since we have Taylor.

No offense JSARNO. IMO and and also in the eye of most experts Okoye and Anderson need some coaching up and bulking up. If Landry, Okoye and Anderson was available when ATL and HOU selected they would've picked Landry too.

Rest assured Snyder will bolster the DL and LB corps before long. Any doubters?

[EXoffender]

Guys we're fellow fans here. Holk' that's not neccessary. JSARNO, two wrongs don't make a right.

[holcknowsbest]

landy is not a effing run stopping safety!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and nether is taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we dont need that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we need a run stopping front 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! these safeties will make more plays in coverage than they ever would in pass coverage man......are you kidding me come on man maybe you dont know what we need hence the redskins picked the guy i suggested not your pick you naysayer so give me props donkey and i will commend you in calling out the 6th round pick thing so just admit i am better at knowing talent!!!!

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by jsarno

We NEED a d line. He is another hard hitting safety. How is it we were all thrilled to get Adam Archuletta at first, then we were all thrilled to get rid of him when he didn't fit into our system? But now we went out and DRAFTED someone cut from a similar mold as AA???? That doesn't sound a little looney to you? We were better off drafting a Leon Hall type player and letting Springs play safety.
It kinda does hurt us considering YET A-FREAKIN-GAIN we will have NO pass rush. I don't know about you, that is pissing me off. How many years do we have to suffer with no pass rush before we learn. Williams can only disguise so many blitzes, and send the farm so many times. We saw how well that worked out last year.

Landry is known as a better coverage guy and he should create the mismatches Williams envisioned with Archuletta.

Don't rule out Fletcher making our defense more stout against the run and commanding it the way Pierce did. I think you are going to see a big time improvement immediately.

[EXoffender]

Let's not compare Landry to Archuleta. Landry is the real deal. Not only does he rock ballcarriers silly, he's has the football smarts to go with it. And Sean Taylor doesn't get beat often. As a matter of fact, he seemingly had a better season alongside Ryan Clark and Vernon Fox (guys who he trusted to know their own assignment). The greatest thing is that now we have some stability and not a roundabout Stoutmire, Prioleau gig.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

No offense JSARNO. IMO and and also in the eye of most experts Okoye and Anderson need some coaching up and bulking up. If Landry, Okoye and Anderson was available when ATL and HOU selected they would've picked Landry too.

I agree they do. Anderson would still be a starter for us, and I beleive Okoye would be too. I'm not saying Landry is a poor player...I just see AA all over again. Picking a run stopping safety when we needed a pass defending safety is not the wisest of things to do IMO. There is obviously nothing I can do about the fact that we picked Landry, except HOPE that we can turn him into what we need.

Rest assured Snyder will bolster the DL and LB corps before long. Any doubters?

I do doubt that. He already brought in Fletcher, our cap numbers are very stingy right now, and who all is left in FA anyway? Our LB's are set. Maybe there will be a cap casualty later and we'll pick up a DE, but I am not holding my breathe, and I am not sure we'll have the space under the cap.