The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread

drew54 · 04-28-2007, 03:22 PM

I must say that it must be impossible to trade in this draft. If that is the case then I am a little less upset about our pick.

I really thought that Miami would be all over trading up and I was absolutely floored when they took Ginn.

The thing that worries me the most about Landry is that we now have two guys who are head hunters and that could be both good and bad.

I guess it all depends on how our D line shakes out.

skinsfan_nn · 04-28-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2em

I dont understand....Okoye only 19 years old and highly talked about. Can you say FO= DUMB. Now the texans have williams and okoye. Unreal good job skins, you failed again!!!

Talk doesn't mean jack, or win football games! They picked up the best player available. SMART MOVE.

Bill B · 04-28-2007, 03:23 PM

Well I thought they would have gone D-Line but Landry is a great player. My quesion is who should the Skins target in free agency to bolster the D Line and guard? The only name I see that keeps coming up in posts is Ian Scott? Is there anyone else out there that can help?

As far as guard - isn't Floyd "Pork Chop" Womack still available? He reminds me of Dockery a little in being a road grader type of guard.

skinsfan_nn · 04-28-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm shocked that he might fall to the middle, or even late, 1st round.

SGG, I'm not suprised at all. mid/late...1st

Longtimefan · 04-28-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCSkin

Not that down on Landry--but the inability to trade down disappoints me. Still I look forward to seeing Landry on the field (say around Week 10)...

Yuo know in order to trade up or down, you have to have a trade partner that you can work out a compatible deal with. Not as easy as many people seem to think, it's not an automatic, we're at the 12th pick now and there has not been a trade yet. I just hope we can address some of the other needs we have with trades, early cuts, or later round DP and UD FA.

memphisskin · 04-28-2007, 03:36 PM

I was in the Gaines Adam or Alan Branch camp because I thought we needed to upgrade our defensive line, BUT drafting Landry will really improve our passing defense and we can now concentrate our 2nd day picks on picking up d-linemen. We've now got two safeties who are pretty interchangeable, and a ton of depth in the secondary with Fox, Prioleau. This pick will make ST even more dangerous, because now you don't know who is coming or staying back, and both guys can cover and hit.

Gmanc711 · 04-28-2007, 03:37 PM

Well, when we first picked Landry, I was FURIOUS that we didnt trade down. I thought everything worked out perfectly for us.... now seeing how the draft is going; I can't be mad at the Skins' for not trading down, they really had no partners.

As far as Landry...I really wanted to go defensive line. I just think we needed a defensive end, and I would have liked to take Anderson or Okoye. Now part of me (now that its over) am glad we didnt get a DT, because we have Griffin and two guys we drafted last year who I think can be quite good. I'm not estatic, but after seeing that we really couldnt trade down, I'm not as dissapointed as I was initially, I thought I was going to cry.

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 04-28-2007, 03:43 PM

If Landry doesn't work out I'm gonna get a LOT of angry Private Messages in three years.

over the mountain · 04-28-2007, 03:45 PM

went back and read a tues wash post article on landry, seems some other nfc execs/scouts dont think landry is cerebral or football knowledgable enough . . . pairing him with ST might be bad idea having two of the same type players, might hurt STs development (probaly the most certain negative sideeffect of adding a rook safety) . . . go skins

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 04-28-2007, 04:00 PM

Where's Earthquake?

Beemnseven · 04-28-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by memphisskin

I was in the Gaines Adam or Alan Branch camp because I thought we needed to upgrade our defensive line, BUT drafting Landry will really improve our passing defense and we can now concentrate our 2nd day picks on picking up d-linemen. We've now got two safeties who are pretty interchangeable, and a ton of depth in the secondary with Fox, Prioleau. This pick will make ST even more dangerous, because now you don't know who is coming or staying back, and both guys can cover and hit.

Well, you would think ... but don't be so sure. Watch them take a tight end, a receiver, an offensive guard. It would be a small miracle if they are able to find anyone in the 5th round who could make an impact no matter where they pick.

This front office just doesn't like to take defensive linemen high in the draft.

skinsy · 04-28-2007, 04:07 PM

What people don't realize is that a good secondary = sacks. Our D- line looked so bad last year because our secondary couldn't cover my grandma (and she runs a 4.9 40), and quarterbacks were making quick throws. The D Line wasn't great, but it wasn't as nearly as bad as it looked. We can pick up some veterans later. Landry is solid at 6, he was the best on the board.

DGreen28 · 04-28-2007, 04:08 PM

WHAT!! The skins have 8 CB/SS/FS. Why is a team that had 19 sacks all last year and one of the worst run defenses in the league. Drafting a safety. Skins need help on the Dline. Bad Pick

JWsleep · 04-28-2007, 04:16 PM

Given that they didn't have a trade partner, they took the highest rated D player on their board. Now maybe they didn't evaluate talent correctly (a serious possibility with this group, no doubt) but given that, they made a responsible move as a FO.

Plus, it's clear that Williams believes that the key to his D is proper effective safety play. Now he's got great young talent there. As for the D line, let's hope they can pick up a decent late rounder or late FA to bolster things, and maybe if our LBs and Safeties can play ball properly, our D-line will look better. It's not impossible that bad secondary and LB play made the line look worse... (obviously, this is not conventional wisdom, but perhaps that what GW and co think--and he did have top-10 Ds for us).

A responsible pick--not flashy. That's pretty good from this bunch. And I assume that no one wanted to trade down with us, which is what we all really wanted.

offiss · 04-28-2007, 04:29 PM

What makes anyone think that just because you draft a D-lineman that it solves our problems? The fact is not 1 of these guy's had the talent that M. Williams had coming out last year, not as fast, not as strong, not as tall, and look at what kind of a difference he made for Houston. My feeling on these lineman is that they are not impact type lineman, which would leave us in the same position next year, but with Landry I believe barring injury we are set at the safety position for a long time.

The only player who I wouldn't have had a problem with at #6 at DL was Anderson, but there wasen't a ton of film on him to really get a feel for him, but he may be the 1 player that got away. On the other hand none of these guys are S. Merriman in whom I wanted 2 years ago. When it's all said I believe we drafted a difference maker in Landry, I don't believe the other top Lineman are.

04-28-2007, 03:22 PM	#181
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread I must say that it must be impossible to trade in this draft. If that is the case then I am a little less upset about our pick. I really thought that Miami would be all over trading up and I was absolutely floored when they took Ginn. The thing that worries me the most about Landry is that we now have two guys who are head hunters and that could be both good and bad. I guess it all depends on how our D line shakes out. __________________ No pressure, no diamonds.

04-28-2007, 03:23 PM	#183
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread Well I thought they would have gone D-Line but Landry is a great player. My quesion is who should the Skins target in free agency to bolster the D Line and guard? The only name I see that keeps coming up in posts is Ian Scott? Is there anyone else out there that can help? As far as guard - isn't Floyd "Pork Chop" Womack still available? He reminds me of Dockery a little in being a road grader type of guard.

04-28-2007, 03:36 PM	#186
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread I was in the Gaines Adam or Alan Branch camp because I thought we needed to upgrade our defensive line, BUT drafting Landry will really improve our passing defense and we can now concentrate our 2nd day picks on picking up d-linemen. We've now got two safeties who are pretty interchangeable, and a ton of depth in the secondary with Fox, Prioleau. This pick will make ST even more dangerous, because now you don't know who is coming or staying back, and both guys can cover and hit.

04-28-2007, 03:37 PM	#187
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread Well, when we first picked Landry, I was FURIOUS that we didnt trade down. I thought everything worked out perfectly for us.... now seeing how the draft is going; I can't be mad at the Skins' for not trading down, they really had no partners. As far as Landry...I really wanted to go defensive line. I just think we needed a defensive end, and I would have liked to take Anderson or Okoye. Now part of me (now that its over) am glad we didnt get a DT, because we have Griffin and two guys we drafted last year who I think can be quite good. I'm not estatic, but after seeing that we really couldnt trade down, I'm not as dissapointed as I was initially, I thought I was going to cry. __________________ #21

04-28-2007, 03:43 PM	#188
TenandSix:Unacceptable Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 331	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread If Landry doesn't work out I'm gonna get a LOT of angry Private Messages in three years.

04-28-2007, 03:45 PM	#189
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread went back and read a tues wash post article on landry, seems some other nfc execs/scouts dont think landry is cerebral or football knowledgable enough . . . pairing him with ST might be bad idea having two of the same type players, might hurt STs development (probaly the most certain negative sideeffect of adding a rook safety) . . . go skins

04-28-2007, 04:00 PM	#190
TenandSix:Unacceptable Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 331	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread Where's Earthquake?

04-28-2007, 04:07 PM	#192
skinsy Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 58	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread What people don't realize is that a good secondary = sacks. Our D- line looked so bad last year because our secondary couldn't cover my grandma (and she runs a 4.9 40), and quarterbacks were making quick throws. The D Line wasn't great, but it wasn't as nearly as bad as it looked. We can pick up some veterans later. Landry is solid at 6, he was the best on the board.

04-28-2007, 04:08 PM	#193
DGreen28 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rocky Mount NC Age: 47 Posts: 133	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread WHAT!! The skins have 8 CB/SS/FS. Why is a team that had 19 sacks all last year and one of the worst run defenses in the league. Drafting a safety. Skins need help on the Dline. Bad Pick

04-28-2007, 04:16 PM	#194
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread Given that they didn't have a trade partner, they took the highest rated D player on their board. Now maybe they didn't evaluate talent correctly (a serious possibility with this group, no doubt) but given that, they made a responsible move as a FO. Plus, it's clear that Williams believes that the key to his D is proper effective safety play. Now he's got great young talent there. As for the D line, let's hope they can pick up a decent late rounder or late FA to bolster things, and maybe if our LBs and Safeties can play ball properly, our D-line will look better. It's not impossible that bad secondary and LB play made the line look worse... (obviously, this is not conventional wisdom, but perhaps that what GW and co think--and he did have top-10 Ds for us). A responsible pick--not flashy. That's pretty good from this bunch. And I assume that no one wanted to trade down with us, which is what we all really wanted. __________________ Hail from Houston!

04-28-2007, 04:29 PM	#195
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread What makes anyone think that just because you draft a D-lineman that it solves our problems? The fact is not 1 of these guy's had the talent that M. Williams had coming out last year, not as fast, not as strong, not as tall, and look at what kind of a difference he made for Houston. My feeling on these lineman is that they are not impact type lineman, which would leave us in the same position next year, but with Landry I believe barring injury we are set at the safety position for a long time. The only player who I wouldn't have had a problem with at #6 at DL was Anderson, but there wasen't a ton of film on him to really get a feel for him, but he may be the 1 player that got away. On the other hand none of these guys are S. Merriman in whom I wanted 2 years ago. When it's all said I believe we drafted a difference maker in Landry, I don't believe the other top Lineman are.

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