Interesting mock draft

[Big C]

if that trade happened we would be getting jipped 200 points on the value chart. they would have to throw in a third as well to get near equal

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Big C

if that trade happened we would be getting jipped 200 points on the value chart. they would have to throw in a third as well to get near equal

You beat me to the punch. My initial instinct was this could be a good move, especially if we could be Harrell and Spencer. As Big C points out, though, that would mean leaving the equivalent value of a pretty high (#78 overall) third round pick on the table so bad move. Also, no guarentee that Harrell or Spencer would be there in those spots. Harrell is apparently moving up draft boards pretty quickly after a very good on-campus workout and I've seen him projected as high as #15. After him the DT prospects seem to drop off pretty quickly. If NE would throw in the 3rd to make up the different then you'd almost have to make that deal though. Seems like a large bounty, but I've heard nothing but good things about Landry so maybe they think that is their ticket back to the SB.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Big C

if that trade happened we would be getting jipped 200 points on the value chart. they would have to throw in a third as well to get near equal

Where do you guys find your numbers on the draft value as it relates to individual picks? I'd love to see this chart.

[KLHJ2]

Ive never seen it with my own two eyes, but it does exist. They talked about it for days during last years draft on NFL network.

[KLHJ2]

NFL Draft Value Chart

It is now common practice for NFL teams to follow a “draft value chart,” which assigns numeric values to every draft pick from No. 1 to the final pick in the seventh round, No. 262. The idea of the chart is to create a standard for assessing fair value for trades. Each team creates their own draft value chart based upon their assessment of the draft and strength of the players at each position.

The chart only works with trades involving draft picks traded for picks. When players are involved, it changes everything.

The chart is just a guide. If a team likes a certain player they might be willing to give up more value points worth of picks in order to get their man. Likewise, a team not happy with its position might be willing to accept less in return than the chart might suggest to move down a few spots. Below is an example of a draft value chart. This is not a a chart which is used by any particular NFL team and is only an example of the what might be used by teams in assessing a trade.

NFL Draft Value Chart
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7
1 3,000 33 580 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14.2
2 2,600 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 26.6 194 13.8
3 2,200 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26.2 195 13.4
4 1,800 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 25.8 196 13
5 1,700 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39.5 165 25.4 197 12.6
6 1,600 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12.2
7 1,500 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38.5 167 24.6 199 11.8
8 1,400 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24.2 200 11.4
9 1,350 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37.5 169 23.8 201 11
10 1,300 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23.4 202 10.6
11 1,250 43 470 75 215 107 80 139 36.5 171 23 203 10.2
12 1,200 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 22.6 204 9.8
13 1,150 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35.5 173 22.2 205 9.4
14 1,100 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 21.8 206 9
15 1,050 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34.5 175 21.4 207 8.6
16 1,000 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8.2
17 950 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33.5 177 20.6 209 7.8
18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20.2 210 7.4
19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32.6 179 19.8 211 7
20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32.2 180 19.4 212 6.6
21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31.8 181 19 213 6.2
22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31.4 182 18.6 214 5.8
23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18.2 215 5.4
24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 30.6 184 17.8 216 5
25 720 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30.2 185 17.4 217 4.6
26 700 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 29.8 186 17 218 4.2
27 680 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29.4 187 16.6 219 3.8
28 660 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16.2 220 3.4
29 640 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 28.6 189 15.8 221 3
30 620 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 28.2 190 15.4 222 2.6
31 600 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 27.8 191 15 223 2.3
32 590 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27.4 192 14.6 224 2

[hooskins]

I think this deal is NOT realistic. If you ask anyone who knows about trade talk, this isn't happening. I think this is all based on needs and none of this has been researched as to if it the front offices agree on it.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7
1 3,000 33 580 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14.2
2 2,600 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 26.6 194 13.8
3 2,200 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26.2 195 13.4
4 1,800 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 25.8 196 13
5 1,700 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39.5 165 25.4 197 12.6
6 1,600 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12.2
7 1,500 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38.5 167 24.6 199 11.8
8 1,400 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24.2 200 11.4
9 1,350 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37.5 169 23.8 201 11
10 1,300 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23.4 202 10.6
11 1,250 43 470 75 215 107 80 139 36.5 171 23 203 10.2
12 1,200 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 22.6 204 9.8
13 1,150 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35.5 173 22.2 205 9.4
14 1,100 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 21.8 206 9
15 1,050 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34.5 175 21.4 207 8.6
16 1,000 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8.2
17 950 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33.5 177 20.6 209 7.8
18 900 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20.2 210 7.4
19 875 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32.6 179 19.8 211 7
20 850 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32.2 180 19.4 212 6.6
21 800 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31.8 181 19 213 6.2
22 780 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31.4 182 18.6 214 5.8
23 760 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18.2 215 5.4
24 740 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 30.6 184 17.8 216 5
25 720 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30.2 185 17.4 217 4.6
26 700 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 29.8 186 17 218 4.2
27 680 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29.4 187 16.6 219 3.8
28 660 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16.2 220 3.4
29 640 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 28.6 189 15.8 221 3
30 620 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 28.2 190 15.4 222 2.6
31 600 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 27.8 191 15 223 2.3
32 590 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27.4 192 14.6 224 2

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[GMScud]

Huh, interesting. Thanks

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Huh, interesting. Thanks

The LOST numbers. Anyone? lol ok.

But seriously I think this mock is overemphasizing needs and the ability to trade. I doubt all those trades are gonna go down like that. It is near impossible IMO.

But I would like two first round picks rather than just one. I dont think two first rounds are worth one high one however, which just makes this more unrealistic.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by hooskins

4 8 15 16 23 42...

HA! Nice Lost reference. Big fan of that show. 108! Gotta press the button!
I wrote that "huh, interesting" before I saw the Lost numbers. Right there with ya

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

HA! Nice Lost reference. Big fan of that show. 108! Gotta press the button!

Haha I saw all those numbers and that was my first thought.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Where do you guys find your numbers on the draft value as it relates to individual picks? I'd love to see this chart.

here. sirius nfl radio says all nfl teams use this to gauge trades regarding picks

NFL Draft Value Chart

[SC Skins Fan]

Here is a link to the value chart, it is a bit easier to navigate than the one copied above. It was developed, I believe, primarily by the Dallas Cowboys front office many years ago when Gil Brandt was still there. Most teams follow it pretty closely so it is a handy link to reference when people start throwing out wild trade rumors.

NFL Draft Value Chart

Edit: Ok, Big C beat me again in the midst of my typing apparently ... apologies for the duplicate

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Big C

here. sirius nfl radio says all nfl teams use this to gauge trades regarding picks

NFL Draft Value Chart

Whattup B.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Big C

here. sirius nfl radio says all nfl teams use this to gauge trades regarding picks

NFL Draft Value Chart

Thanks guys. That is easy to read.