My Last Post Ever.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

So long, Fan4Now.

best reply yet.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by ParkerGibbs

i have to agree in that something is up with Gibbs sticking with Brunell. there is not one aspect of this guy that will lead us to victory. his pocket composure is equivalent to a highschool freshman, he has zero hesitation to throw the ball away, ive never seen him drop back less than 10 yards, and he has questionable accuracy. really, its starting to get to me. ill probably continue to bitch on this forum to try to counterbalance those who insist on supporting him, no reason to quit now.

good point. his pocket presence is awful.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I started the props to Brunell thread last week and I stand by it - he played well and deserved to praise. This week, Brunell played horribly and deserves ridicule.

I am tired of people who see things in black/white and right/wrong terms. It's not "all or nothing." There should be room for nuance in an intelligent debate.

Perhaps some are not capable of recognizing that it is totally legitimate to praise Brunell one week and bash him the next. He plays inconsistently and therefore gets praised/bashed on an inconsistent basis.

Can I at least consistently complain about Brunell's inconsistence?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I started the props to Brunell thread last week and I stand by it - he played well and deserved to praise. This week, Brunell played horribly and deserves ridicule.

I am tired of people who see things in black/white and right/wrong terms. It's not "all or nothing." There should be room for nuance in an intelligent debate.

Perhaps some are not capable of recognizing that it is totally legitimate to praise Brunell one week and bash him the next. He plays inconsistently and therefore gets praised/bashed on an inconsistent basis.

aw yes, the infamous Poll that had him play either Sub-Par or 'Great'.

and its not legitmate to bash the PLAYER one week and not the next. you can bash/praise his PERFORMANCE as the weeks go, but the player himself people can make a judgement on and 'inconsistent' has always been a euphemism for BAD in this league.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I started the props to Brunell thread last week and I stand by it - he played well and deserved to praise. This week, Brunell played horribly and deserves ridicule.

I am tired of people who see things in black/white and right/wrong terms. It's not "all or nothing." There should be room for nuance in an intelligent debate.

Perhaps some are not capable of recognizing that it is totally legitimate to praise Brunell one week and bash him the next. He plays inconsistently and therefore gets praised/bashed on an inconsistent basis.

Good point and my thoughts exactly.

Hey, he played well last week. I know some people will never admit that but that's ok. This week he played like shit, and I'm not afraid to say that.

I see nothing wrong with evaluating a player on a week to week basis. You're only as good as your last game.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I see nothing wrong with evaluating a player on a week to week basis. You're only as good as your last game.

how do you know which week to bench them then? like i said, you can evaluate a player's performance each week, sub-par or er, great, but you evaluate the player himself by how he plays over a span of games.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by illdefined

how do you know which week to bench them then? like i said, you can evaluate a player's performance each week, sub-par or er, great, but you evaluate the player himself by how he plays over a span of games.

Of course you also have to evaluate the big picture, but the point of the Brunell thread last week was to simply say he did a good job last week.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by illdefined

aw yes, the infamous Poll that had him play either Sub-Par or 'Great'.

and its not legitmate to bash the PLAYER one week and not the next. you can bash/praise his PERFORMANCE as the weeks go, but the player himself people can make a judgement on and 'inconsistent' has always been a euphemism for BAD in this league.

I've been bashing Brunell for quite some time. I've said for a long time that he can't throw over the middle, isn't all that accurate, and is too conservative. The only point of last week's thread was to give a player who deserved a lot of blame for this season's outcome so praise for playing well. I simply don't see any inconsistency in that.

[TheFunBunch79]

I'm gonna skull**** Brunell

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheFunBunch79

I'm gonna skull**** Brunell

I asked you in another thread to cool it, keep it up and you're done.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by illdefined

how do you know which week to bench them then? like i said, you can evaluate a player's performance each week, sub-par or er, great, but you evaluate the player himself by how he plays over a span of games.

Did I start last week's thread to suggest that our answer lies in Brunell? No. You're reading things into the thread that simply weren't there (i.e. Brunell shouldn't be benched).

As for your suggestion that the poll's options were either "sub-par" or "great," you are wrong. The poll started with three options - "great," "average," and "sub-par." It then expanded to include "good." In any event, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course you also have to evaluate the big picture, but the point of the Brunell thread last week was to simply say he did a good job last week.

yeah i know. i gave him props too, because for the first time in a long, overdue time, he played like he needed to play to win with a bad defense - even if he didn't break any 'records' like he did vs. Houston (record for most dinks completed, yay). alas an NFL season is all big picture, and you can't judge much by one game. or even a half (just ask Ramsey).

[MTK]

Ramsey wasn't judged in one half. He had the entire preseason to secure the job, and Gibbs had 3 years of tape to watch on him to know that he wasn't comfortable with him. I don't want to keep beating this dead horse, I'm just tired of the Ramsey apologists crying about their boy who is riding pine right now in NY.

[TheFunBunch79]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I asked you in another thread to cool it, keep it up and you're done.

if brunell keeps it up he will be done, and if you keep it up you will be done as well. go ahead and do what you need to do to feel powerful asshole

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Did I start last week's thread to suggest that our answer lies in Brunell? No. You're reading things into the thread that simply weren't there (i.e. Brunell shouldn't be benched).

As for your suggestion that the poll's options were either "sub-par" or "great," you are wrong. The poll started with three options - "great," "average," and "sub-par." It then expanded to include "good." In any event, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

nah i know you added the 'good' option later, i just thought it was funny how this thread started on how binary people are about Brunell and "great" and "average" were the original two options on your poll. not making any conclusions about your thoughts on Mark, just thought it was a funny relevant quirk.