Let's talk defense

Defensewins · 10-02-2006, 11:18 AM

Defense is showing improvement each week. When Springs returns and he shakes off the rust there should be more improvement, but it wont be immeadiate. Carlos Rogers was getting picked on some. Although while Springs is out, Carlos takes the other teams #1 WR, which there aren't too many people in this world that can shut down a #1 WR. I rather Carlos give up the underneath stuff as he has been doing, than give up the long TD.
Rumph has found a home with the Skins. Coach Williams really likes him.
Taylor and Archuleta are starting to play well together.
The one question mark I have with our Defense is defending against a good power running game. The Texans and Jag's do not have a power running game. The Giants game will be a good test to see where we are.
Both our offense and our defense are a work in progress. We will improve as the year goes on.

hurrykaine · 10-02-2006, 01:07 PM

Three things I look for in the Defense as the season goes on.

- Archuletta to get more comfortable in the system, esp. in pass coverage.
- The return of Springs to prevent Wright and Rumph from being owned by opposing receivers
- More pressure from the D-line.

It was good for Andre Carter to taste blood today. Should boost his confidence, which has been low lately, with all the criticism about him being just another an overpaid FA acquisition. I agree that this was a good game for the Defense despite the Faguars scoring 30. The two turnovers by the offense put us in poor field position, and that can't be attributed to the D. Anytime you hold a team to about 300 total yards, the defense has done its job.

MTK · 10-02-2006, 01:11 PM

It was also nice to see Daniels get into the mix with the sack and INT. He played great down the stretch last year, we need him to continue to step up and make plays.

DaveyFoSho · 10-02-2006, 01:14 PM

How did that receiver hold on to the ball in the end zone...ST and i believe it was warrick holdman sandwiched him and his helmet flew...:-(

DaveyFoSho · 10-02-2006, 01:15 PM

Yea it was pretty weird to see them kick off from the 15.....also after the titans guy did his little stompy did u see where dallas got to kick the ball?? haha the opp 40 yard line

hurrykaine · 10-02-2006, 01:16 PM

For as much as we criticize Wright and Rumph for being owned game after game, these guys have stepped up some. The move to strip the ball out of TOs hands in the endzone during the Dallas game tells you something about Rumph. He's a football player alright - with time, hopefully a short time, he will be a decent corner in this system.

Would anyone be surprised if Wright leads the team in INTs when the season is over?

hurrykaine · 10-02-2006, 01:22 PM

Next week should be a true test for the secondary. The Giants are as good an offense as we will face this year. I'm confident that our LBs can handle Shockey, and that Taylor will lay the wood on Plaxico and turn him into a non-factor. Toomer, on the other hand, is Rogers' responsibility, and that scares me.

If Kate Mara sings the national anthem, that game's over - we shouldn't even bother showing for it.

RedskinRat · 10-02-2006, 01:27 PM

I expect a tough game followed by a nice Redskins post game party to celebrate the win.

This week the story will be surgical D, multiple sacks and plenty of scared WR's crossing our secondary flapping their arms and wincing from the big hits.

hurrykaine · 10-02-2006, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I expect a tough game followed by a nice Redskins post game party to celebrate the win.

This week the story will be surgical D, multiple sacks and plenty of scared WR's crossing our secondary flapping their arms and wincing from the big hits.

You better hope the story of the week is not Lavar and Pierce having career days against their former team.

RedskinRat · 10-02-2006, 01:35 PM

My only concern is the team of commentators we get. I may need a sick sack this week.

JWsleep · 10-02-2006, 07:13 PM

We still have some trouble covering the middle in pass D. That is a big deal, but I agree that GW is on it, and we'll get better as the year goes on.

Taylor was all over the field yesterday. He had sick hits in the pass game, the run game, and on specials. Wow.

Hope the D line continues to gell. If Golston and Griffen continue to get a push in the middle and stuff the run, we'll be in business. I'd still like to see Rocky get some time, but I guess if it aint broke...

The thing that has killed us all year is big plays. To me, that's not so bad, because it means we play solid most of the time. That's something that can be fixed. And with our O coming together, it will help the D. But it's not there yet.

D'BOYZ · 10-02-2006, 07:41 PM

Ok after the game

Positives
Great against the run
Put Pressure got Sacks
Turn Overs
THIRD DOWN EFFICIENCY 2-13-15%

Negatives
Coverage (a lot of blown coverages to many guys open even that Leftwitch didn't to mutch time to throw)
Tackle ( this is basicly in the second line of defense to many broken tackles and 1 of Williams TD he broke 3 tackles)
S.Taylor The guy is great is a playmaker but he takes bad angles to get to the player a lot of times this has be a mayor flaw in all of his career case in point M. Jones-Drew touchdown
Big Plays just to many only 12 first down in the hole game and still they got 30 points on the board to many big plays.

Alvin#40 · 10-02-2006, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Ok after the game

Positives
Great against the run
Put Pressure got Sacks
Turn Overs
THIRD DOWN EFFICIENCY 2-13-15%

Negatives
Coverage (a lot of blown coverages to many guys open even that Leftwitch didn't to mutch time to throw)
Tackle ( this is basicly in the second line of defense to many broken tackles and 1 of Williams TD he broke 3 tackles)
S.Taylor The guy is great is a playmaker but he takes bad angles to get to the player a lot of times this has be a mayor flaw in all of his career case in point M. Jones-Drew touchdown
Big Plays just to many only 12 first down in the hole game and still they got 30 points on the board to many big plays.

Sean Taylor bad angles in his career!?!?!? Obviously you do not watch him much. That is just dead wrong Rings.
If you watch that play again, Sean was coming up to stop the 1st down. I was 3rd and long. When the ball was thrown, he was already out of the play. WTF.. Had nothing to do with him attacking the ball carrier.

VTSkins897 · 10-02-2006, 08:07 PM

yeah the D will step it up as the season continues so i'm not worried. we just beat what could be a playoff team in the afc. i'm happy. and i love santana!

RTerps2002 · 10-02-2006, 08:08 PM

I can't beleive no one has mentioned how poorly Carlos Rodger has played all year... He was horrible again yesturday for the 4th week.

10-02-2006, 11:18 AM	#16
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Re: Let's talk defense Defense is showing improvement each week. When Springs returns and he shakes off the rust there should be more improvement, but it wont be immeadiate. Carlos Rogers was getting picked on some. Although while Springs is out, Carlos takes the other teams #1 WR, which there aren't too many people in this world that can shut down a #1 WR. I rather Carlos give up the underneath stuff as he has been doing, than give up the long TD. Rumph has found a home with the Skins. Coach Williams really likes him. Taylor and Archuleta are starting to play well together. The one question mark I have with our Defense is defending against a good power running game. The Texans and Jag's do not have a power running game. The Giants game will be a good test to see where we are. Both our offense and our defense are a work in progress. We will improve as the year goes on.

10-02-2006, 01:07 PM	#17
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: Let's talk defense Three things I look for in the Defense as the season goes on. - Archuletta to get more comfortable in the system, esp. in pass coverage. - The return of Springs to prevent Wright and Rumph from being owned by opposing receivers - More pressure from the D-line. It was good for Andre Carter to taste blood today. Should boost his confidence, which has been low lately, with all the criticism about him being just another an overpaid FA acquisition. I agree that this was a good game for the Defense despite the Faguars scoring 30. The two turnovers by the offense put us in poor field position, and that can't be attributed to the D. Anytime you hold a team to about 300 total yards, the defense has done its job.

10-02-2006, 01:11 PM	#18
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Let's talk defense It was also nice to see Daniels get into the mix with the sack and INT. He played great down the stretch last year, we need him to continue to step up and make plays. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-02-2006, 01:14 PM	#19
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 38 Posts: 304	Re: Let's talk defense How did that receiver hold on to the ball in the end zone...ST and i believe it was warrick holdman sandwiched him and his helmet flew...:-( __________________ DaveyFoSho

10-02-2006, 01:15 PM	#20
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 38 Posts: 304	Re: Let's talk defense Yea it was pretty weird to see them kick off from the 15.....also after the titans guy did his little stompy did u see where dallas got to kick the ball?? haha the opp 40 yard line __________________ DaveyFoSho

10-02-2006, 01:16 PM	#21
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: Let's talk defense For as much as we criticize Wright and Rumph for being owned game after game, these guys have stepped up some. The move to strip the ball out of TOs hands in the endzone during the Dallas game tells you something about Rumph. He's a football player alright - with time, hopefully a short time, he will be a decent corner in this system. Would anyone be surprised if Wright leads the team in INTs when the season is over?

10-02-2006, 01:22 PM	#22
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: Let's talk defense Next week should be a true test for the secondary. The Giants are as good an offense as we will face this year. I'm confident that our LBs can handle Shockey, and that Taylor will lay the wood on Plaxico and turn him into a non-factor. Toomer, on the other hand, is Rogers' responsibility, and that scares me. If Kate Mara sings the national anthem, that game's over - we shouldn't even bother showing for it.

10-02-2006, 01:27 PM	#23
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Let's talk defense I expect a tough game followed by a nice Redskins post game party to celebrate the win. This week the story will be surgical D, multiple sacks and plenty of scared WR's crossing our secondary flapping their arms and wincing from the big hits.

10-02-2006, 01:35 PM	#25
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Let's talk defense My only concern is the team of commentators we get. I may need a sick sack this week.

10-02-2006, 07:13 PM	#26
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Re: Let's talk defense We still have some trouble covering the middle in pass D. That is a big deal, but I agree that GW is on it, and we'll get better as the year goes on. Taylor was all over the field yesterday. He had sick hits in the pass game, the run game, and on specials. Wow. Hope the D line continues to gell. If Golston and Griffen continue to get a push in the middle and stuff the run, we'll be in business. I'd still like to see Rocky get some time, but I guess if it aint broke... The thing that has killed us all year is big plays. To me, that's not so bad, because it means we play solid most of the time. That's something that can be fixed. And with our O coming together, it will help the D. But it's not there yet. __________________ Hail from Houston!

10-02-2006, 07:41 PM	#27
D'BOYZ The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,363	Re: Let's talk defense Ok after the game Positives Great against the run Put Pressure got Sacks Turn Overs THIRD DOWN EFFICIENCY 2-13-15% Negatives Coverage (a lot of blown coverages to many guys open even that Leftwitch didn't to mutch time to throw) Tackle ( this is basicly in the second line of defense to many broken tackles and 1 of Williams TD he broke 3 tackles) S.Taylor The guy is great is a playmaker but he takes bad angles to get to the player a lot of times this has be a mayor flaw in all of his career case in point M. Jones-Drew touchdown Big Plays just to many only 12 first down in the hole game and still they got 30 points on the board to many big plays.

10-02-2006, 08:07 PM	#29
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	Re: Let's talk defense yeah the D will step it up as the season continues so i'm not worried. we just beat what could be a playoff team in the afc. i'm happy. and i love santana!

10-02-2006, 08:08 PM	#30
RTerps2002 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FT Lauderdale Florida Age: 53 Posts: 33	Re: Let's talk defense I can't beleive no one has mentioned how poorly Carlos Rodger has played all year... He was horrible again yesturday for the 4th week.

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