724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio

hooskins · 07-31-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Fumbles lost. Sorry for the misleading. I don't generally consider a fumble a turnover unless the fumble was lost

No problemo. But you guys seriously think it will be 3:1? I mean look at other QBs, like Trent Green, in the same system last couple years. He was basically 1:1 or 1.5:1, never 3:1. In fact I am positive a starting QB last year that was not 3:1 or better, but I'll check it. 1:1 is not a bad ratio.

hooskins · 07-31-2006, 12:15 PM

Green was 2:1 exactly in his 2002 season, which was one of his best. I should change my vote to "Other" because I really think it will around 1.25:1 or something like that. Closer to 1:1, but a bit better.

Schneed10 · 07-31-2006, 12:21 PM

1) A fumble is not a turnover unless the other team recovers it. If you recover your own fumble, it is by definition, not a turnover.

2) Expecting Brunell to go 3:1 is entirely unrealistic. No QBs ever do that.

3) I'll say he performs on pace for 25 TDs, 12 INTs, and 5 fumbles lost. That'd be about 1.5:1. I'll round up to 2:1 because I'm probably being a little conservative.

724Skinsfan · 07-31-2006, 12:32 PM

Oops! Didn't see the fumbles part! Reading is fun! Change mine to a pastrami on rye with slaw on the side or not at all, I'm not going to eat it anyway. What's that? Oh, uh a cherry Coke.

hooskins · 07-31-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

2) Expecting Brunell to go 3:1 is entirely unrealistic. No QBs ever do that.

3) I'll say he performs on pace for 25 TDs, 12 INTs, and 5 fumbles lost. That'd be about 1.5:1. I'll round up to 2:1 because I'm probably being a little conservative.

Yeah what i have been trying to say, 3:1 isn't possible.

MTK · 07-31-2006, 12:41 PM

Factoring in fumbles is a little tricky.

Regarding TD/INT, I say 2:1 is a pretty safe estimate.

I say he'll probably be good for 5-6 lost fumbles.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-31-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Yeah what i have been trying to say, 3:1 isn't possible.

I think it's possible because he's going to have a few good games before he gets hurt.

hooskins · 07-31-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I think it's possible because he's going to have a few good games before he gets hurt.

Well in that case, I am sure their are many QB's that have gone 7:1, but have played like 4 games and not been full time starters. I guess that is a whole different issue, but I gave my answer assuming that he starts a majority of the games.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-31-2006, 12:50 PM

I say give it 6 games as a measuring stick.

Monkeydad · 07-31-2006, 01:32 PM

I say 3:1. He'll have more than one receiver to throw to this year, so with 6 possible places to throw the ball (3 WRs, TE, RB, FB)...he shouldn't have to hold onto the ball and scramble as much as last year. His fumbles should go down thanks to free agency and Al Saunders.

mooby · 07-31-2006, 02:44 PM

I'm going with 2:1. Reason being, only one quarterback in the history of the game has had over 30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions, and that was Donovan McNabb in 2004. That's excluding fumbles of course, which i think Brunell will have his share of.

dmek25 · 07-31-2006, 03:04 PM

it seems like brunell had a crapload of fumbles last season. does anyone have the actual number? this offense is more of a 3 and 5 step and throw offense so there is a chance the number of fumbles goes down

That Guy · 07-31-2006, 08:12 PM

1.5:1, but that's not an option, so i went 2:1, which is too high.

That Guy · 07-31-2006, 08:13 PM

last year he had 23 TDs, 10ints and 11 fumbles (6 lost).

23:16 = 1.4375:1

Sammy Baugh Fan · 07-31-2006, 08:16 PM

It will be low and short lived before Gibbs puts Jason Campbell in.

Brunell lasts 6 games max in my opinion.

"Campbell to Loyyd for a Redskins Touchdown!"

peace

View Poll Results: What will Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio Be in '06 (includes fumbles)
1:1	4	6.15%
1:2	0	0%
1:3	0	0%
2:1	38	58.46%
3:1	21	32.31%
Other	2	3.08%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

07-31-2006, 12:15 PM	#17
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio Green was 2:1 exactly in his 2002 season, which was one of his best. I should change my vote to "Other" because I really think it will around 1.25:1 or something like that. Closer to 1:1, but a bit better. __________________ Vacancy

07-31-2006, 12:21 PM	#18
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio 1) A fumble is not a turnover unless the other team recovers it. If you recover your own fumble, it is by definition, not a turnover. 2) Expecting Brunell to go 3:1 is entirely unrealistic. No QBs ever do that. 3) I'll say he performs on pace for 25 TDs, 12 INTs, and 5 fumbles lost. That'd be about 1.5:1. I'll round up to 2:1 because I'm probably being a little conservative. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

07-31-2006, 12:32 PM	#19
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio Oops! Didn't see the fumbles part! Reading is fun! Change mine to a pastrami on rye with slaw on the side or not at all, I'm not going to eat it anyway. What's that? Oh, uh a cherry Coke. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

07-31-2006, 12:41 PM	#21
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio Factoring in fumbles is a little tricky. Regarding TD/INT, I say 2:1 is a pretty safe estimate. I say he'll probably be good for 5-6 lost fumbles. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-31-2006, 12:50 PM	#24
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio I say give it 6 games as a measuring stick. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-31-2006, 01:32 PM	#25
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio I say 3:1. He'll have more than one receiver to throw to this year, so with 6 possible places to throw the ball (3 WRs, TE, RB, FB)...he shouldn't have to hold onto the ball and scramble as much as last year. His fumbles should go down thanks to free agency and Al Saunders.

07-31-2006, 02:44 PM	#26
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio I'm going with 2:1. Reason being, only one quarterback in the history of the game has had over 30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions, and that was Donovan McNabb in 2004. That's excluding fumbles of course, which i think Brunell will have his share of. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

07-31-2006, 03:04 PM	#27
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio it seems like brunell had a crapload of fumbles last season. does anyone have the actual number? this offense is more of a 3 and 5 step and throw offense so there is a chance the number of fumbles goes down __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

07-31-2006, 08:12 PM	#28
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio 1.5:1, but that's not an option, so i went 2:1, which is too high.

07-31-2006, 08:13 PM	#29
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio last year he had 23 TDs, 10ints and 11 fumbles (6 lost). 23:16 = 1.4375:1

07-31-2006, 08:16 PM	#30
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 62 Posts: 2,507	Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio It will be low and short lived before Gibbs puts Jason Campbell in. Brunell lasts 6 games max in my opinion. "Campbell to Loyyd for a Redskins Touchdown!" peace __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

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