If You Were Patrick Ramsey's Agent...

Schneed10 · 03-05-2006, 12:36 PM

This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.

44deisel44 · 03-05-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.

I agree. Just nice to talk about something else while we WAIT!!!

Huddle · 03-05-2006, 12:48 PM

At the moment, Miami looks like the best target for a trade, but if he's released, more options open up for Ramsey, in my opinion.

Despite what Mike Martz says about Harrington, a confident Patrick Ramsey should have no fear of competing for the Detroit job. They have the scheme and the receivers but need to upgrade the OL.

Scott Linehan of the Rams is said to prefer strong-armed QBs... not just to stretch the field but to get the ball to receivers in a hurry. Bulger's arm strength is average. Isaac Bruce is on the downside, though.

I don't think Ramsey should fear competition with older QB names who are marginal performers.

Bledsoe at 35 is coming off a poor year at Dallas. They aren't loaded with weapons on the offense, though.

Kurt Warner at 35 was only serviceable at Arizona with all their weapons. They have the cap room to carry two decent QBs.

Culpepper and the Vikes might be parting ways. That isn't a bad team offensively.

In Ramsey's shoes, I wouldn't fear a competition with Chris Simms at Tampa Bay. A one-year deal could set him up with a good situation there.

dmek25 · 03-05-2006, 01:06 PM

a one year deal is worst case for ramsey.right now people already have opinions on his ability,so way signing a one year contract.im with thatguy on contacting every team in the league to try and create best case scenario for ramsey

Huddle · 03-05-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.

We don't ALL know anything. According to the poll, nearly 20% think he'll be released...a number which surprised me and inspired this post.

If the thread doesn't interest you, why not just ignore it?

GoSkins! · 03-05-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.

If there are similar offers, the Skins would probably look at which one Ramsey would be happier with thus more inclined to strike a deal. If a team is going to trade a draft pick, they will want Ramsey to extend his contract. That is Ramsey's leverage.

Huddle · 03-05-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

a one year deal is worst case for ramsey.right now people already have opinions on his ability,so way signing a one year contract.im with thatguy on contacting every team in the league to try and create best case scenario for ramsey

I didn't follow your reasoning. Would you mind elaborating? Why is a one-year deal bad for Ramsey if he can pick his team?

Schneed10 · 03-05-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

If there are similar offers, the Skins would probably look at which one Ramsey would be happier with thus more inclined to strike a deal. If a team is going to trade a draft pick, they will want Ramsey to extend his contract. That is Ramsey's leverage.

If the CBA does not get extended, I doubt there will be any offers at all. People will know we need his cap room and will need to release him.

If the CBA does get extended, then we'd probably hold onto him until draft day and take the trade from the highest bidder. Which team that is makes ZERO difference to me.

Huddle · 03-05-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

If the CBA does get extended, then we'd probably hold onto him until draft day and take the trade from the highest bidder. Which team that is makes ZERO difference to me.

Not to you, of course, but it will make a difference to Ramsey since, in all likelihood, the highest bidder will want him to sign a contract extension.

GoSkins! · 03-05-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Huddle

Not to you, of course, but it will make a difference to Ramsey since, in all likelihood, the highest bidder will want him to sign a contract extension.

That's the problem with trying to trade him on draft day. That is the day he will have the most leverage of all. With all the QBs on the market now, he doesn't have much, but put him in a situation where a deal needs to be made without much time... hey... isn't that where we are with the CBA right this second???

dmek25 · 03-05-2006, 02:34 PM

right now general managers have a pre formed idea about ramseys talent.if their ideas are good about his abilty,more money and bargaining power to ramsey.if they like him,and he signs a one year contract and goes somewhere and really stinks it up,then whats he worth?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-05-2006, 02:42 PM

If I were Ramsey's agent ... I'd tell him to take a pay cut so he can remain with the Redskins and Ramseyfan wouldn't have to change his screen name.

Huddle · 03-05-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

right now general managers have a pre formed idea about ramseys talent.if their ideas are good about his abilty,more money and bargaining power to ramsey.if they like him,and he signs a one year contract and goes somewhere and really stinks it up,then whats he worth?

I think the best Ramsey can expect from GMs right now is that they feel he has proven to be a solid Grade B QB who, in the right situation, still might move to the Grade A level.

If he goes into a situation where he ought to succeed but doesn't, his stock goes down whether it's a one-year deal or not.

If he doesn't have confidence in himself, then he'll take the best long-term contract he's offered regardless of the current situation with a team's supporting cast. I doubt that will happen.

70Chip · 03-05-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

If I were Ramsey's agent ... I'd tell him to take a pay cut so he can remain with the Redskins and Ramseyfan wouldn't have to change his screen name.

TAFKARF!

Huddle · 03-05-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

If I were Ramsey's agent ... I'd tell him to take a pay cut so he can remain with the Redskins and Ramseyfan wouldn't have to change his screen name.

Apparently you haven't heard this... a persistent rumor has a Ramsey deal already in play with the Dolphins. We get a fourth for him, but you go to Finheaven, a Dolphins message board, in trade for some guy with the screen name "Feeleyfan."

03-05-2006, 12:36 PM	#16
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: If You Were Patrick Ramsey's Agent... This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-05-2006, 12:48 PM	#18
Huddle Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 352	Re: If You Were Patrick Ramsey's Agent... At the moment, Miami looks like the best target for a trade, but if he's released, more options open up for Ramsey, in my opinion. Despite what Mike Martz says about Harrington, a confident Patrick Ramsey should have no fear of competing for the Detroit job. They have the scheme and the receivers but need to upgrade the OL. Scott Linehan of the Rams is said to prefer strong-armed QBs... not just to stretch the field but to get the ball to receivers in a hurry. Bulger's arm strength is average. Isaac Bruce is on the downside, though. I don't think Ramsey should fear competition with older QB names who are marginal performers. Bledsoe at 35 is coming off a poor year at Dallas. They aren't loaded with weapons on the offense, though. Kurt Warner at 35 was only serviceable at Arizona with all their weapons. They have the cap room to carry two decent QBs. Culpepper and the Vikes might be parting ways. That isn't a bad team offensively. In Ramsey's shoes, I wouldn't fear a competition with Chris Simms at Tampa Bay. A one-year deal could set him up with a good situation there.

03-05-2006, 01:06 PM	#19
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: If You Were Patrick Ramsey's Agent... a one year deal is worst case for ramsey.right now people already have opinions on his ability,so way signing a one year contract.im with thatguy on contacting every team in the league to try and create best case scenario for ramsey __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-05-2006, 02:34 PM	#26
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: If You Were Patrick Ramsey's Agent... right now general managers have a pre formed idea about ramseys talent.if their ideas are good about his abilty,more money and bargaining power to ramsey.if they like him,and he signs a one year contract and goes somewhere and really stinks it up,then whats he worth? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-05-2006, 02:42 PM	#27
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: If You Were Patrick Ramsey's Agent... If I were Ramsey's agent ... I'd tell him to take a pay cut so he can remain with the Redskins and Ramseyfan wouldn't have to change his screen name.

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