The Sam Howell Thread

Schneed10 · 01-17-2023, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Agreed. I do think our defense had something to do with that though.

Yes. Our line applied pressure consistently. Tampa didn't.

SFREDSKIN · 01-19-2023, 01:24 AM

Kurt Warner breaks down SH pre-draft 2 part videos

https://youtu.be/SVcGzhhhakc

https://youtu.be/u5o8n2Av8BM

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-23-2023, 10:50 AM

Carrying over from the other thread:

Keep drafting guys to find a QB. But also never actually play the QBs that were drafted. That doesn't match-up. You need to give the guys a chance to see if they are the answer or not.

If he had a (1) next to his name instead of a (5) this wouldn't even be a conversation.

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-23-2023, 02:42 PM

Sam Howell 2020 at UNC:

68.1% completion rate
3586 passing yards
30 passing touchdowns
7 interceptions
146 rushing yards
5 rushing touchdowns
3,732 total yards
35 total touchdowns
Finished 14th in NCAAF QBR

Sam Howell 2021 at UNC:

62.5% completion rate
3056 passing yards
24 passing touchdowns
9 interceptions
828 rushing yards
11 rushing touchdowns
3884 total yards
35 total touchdowns
Finished 21st in NCAAF QBR

It's pretty crazy this dropped him from a pretty much guaranteed 1st round pick to a 5th rounder.

Between the 2020 and 2021 seasons, Howell lost Javonte Williams, Dyami Brown, Dazz Newsome, and Michael Carter to the draft alone. That doesn't even include any O-lineman that started in 2020 that just didn't get drafted, but were still starters. Any QB that loses 4 NFL draft picks from their offense, is very likely going to have a dip in their stats. Especially when its not from a powerhouse that just replaces guys every year, like Bama, GA, OSU, etc.

punch it in · 01-23-2023, 06:11 PM

His wheels are very very underrated. I for one feel extremely fortunate that he is on our team and that we snagged him in the fifth. It will go down as an absolute steal one day.

davy · 01-23-2023, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Sam Howell 2020 at UNC:

68.1% completion rate
3586 passing yards
30 passing touchdowns
7 interceptions
146 rushing yards
5 rushing touchdowns
3,732 total yards
35 total touchdowns
Finished 14th in NCAAF QBR

Sam Howell 2021 at UNC:

62.5% completion rate
3056 passing yards
24 passing touchdowns
9 interceptions
828 rushing yards
11 rushing touchdowns
3884 total yards
35 total touchdowns
Finished 21st in NCAAF QBR

It's pretty crazy this dropped him from a pretty much guaranteed 1st round pick to a 5th rounder.

Between the 2020 and 2021 seasons, Howell lost Javonte Williams, Dyami Brown, Dazz Newsome, and Michael Carter to the draft alone. That doesn't even include any O-lineman that started in 2020 that just didn't get drafted, but were still starters. Any QB that loses 4 NFL draft picks from their offense, is very likely going to have a dip in their stats. Especially when its not from a powerhouse that just replaces guys every year, like Bama, GA, OSU, etc.

By way of comparison...

Drake Maye 2022 at UNC

66.2% completion rate
4321 passing yards
38 passing touchdowns
7 interceptions
698 rushing yards
7 rushing touchdowns
5019 total yards
45 total touchdowns

Howells numbers don't look so great now.

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-23-2023, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davy

By way of comparison...

Drake Maye 2022 at UNC

66.2% completion rate
4321 passing yards
38 passing touchdowns
7 interceptions
698 rushing yards
7 rushing touchdowns
5019 total yards
45 total touchdowns

Howells numbers don't look so great now.

Maye will be the No. 1 overall pick next year. Those numbers are absurd. That can't be the litmus test.

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-23-2023, 09:13 PM

UNC finished Top 10 in total yards in 2020 and 2021.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal.../_/season/2021

Howell falling to the 5th for us was a lucky break. Not because every team was right 4 times.

Every year, there are tons of players that go way later than they should.

Curl and McLaurin being 2 examples just from our team.

skinsfaninok · 01-23-2023, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Maye will be the No. 1 overall pick next year. Those numbers are absurd. That can't be the litmus test.

Caleb Williams will be but Maye top 5 for sure

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-23-2023, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Caleb Williams will be but Maye top 5 for sure

Maye will be a better NFL QB imo, but you could be right.

I'll edit to he will be drafted in the Top 2.

Those guys will go Top 2 in some order.

punch it in · 01-23-2023, 10:58 PM

They are both the type of guys you go all in for. Nothing like em this year.

skinsfaninok · 01-24-2023, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punch it in

They are both the type of guys you go all in for. Nothing like em this year.

So i say roll with Howell and if he sucks we get a high pick in 24 with a new HC

punch it in · 01-24-2023, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So i say roll with Howell and if he sucks we get a high pick in 24 with a new HC

Exactly dont reach this year when
A) you might not have to we dont know yet
B) 2024 is much more appealing

Get the Oline rebuilt now for either Howell or a better option in FA or the draft in 24

sdskinsfan2001 · 02-09-2023, 08:04 PM

Commanders teammates laud Sam Howell ahead of huge offseason

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/command...222300664.html

rocnrik · 02-09-2023, 09:11 PM

I would take Sam right now with no proven Nfl experience OVER Dak and Russell and Cousins and Carr ( with what they would cost)!and the list goes on and on … if this Kid turns out good then we can spend the money to fill in the holes ..we gotta hope we found a gem in the fifth!!!

01-19-2023, 01:24 AM	#122
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Kurt Warner breaks down SH pre-draft 2 part videos https://youtu.be/SVcGzhhhakc https://youtu.be/u5o8n2Av8BM __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-23-2023, 10:50 AM	#123
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,000	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Carrying over from the other thread: Keep drafting guys to find a QB. But also never actually play the QBs that were drafted. That doesn't match-up. You need to give the guys a chance to see if they are the answer or not. If he had a (1) next to his name instead of a (5) this wouldn't even be a conversation. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

01-23-2023, 02:42 PM	#124
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,000	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Sam Howell 2020 at UNC: 68.1% completion rate 3586 passing yards 30 passing touchdowns 7 interceptions 146 rushing yards 5 rushing touchdowns 3,732 total yards 35 total touchdowns Finished 14th in NCAAF QBR Sam Howell 2021 at UNC: 62.5% completion rate 3056 passing yards 24 passing touchdowns 9 interceptions 828 rushing yards 11 rushing touchdowns 3884 total yards 35 total touchdowns Finished 21st in NCAAF QBR It's pretty crazy this dropped him from a pretty much guaranteed 1st round pick to a 5th rounder. Between the 2020 and 2021 seasons, Howell lost Javonte Williams, Dyami Brown, Dazz Newsome, and Michael Carter to the draft alone. That doesn't even include any O-lineman that started in 2020 that just didn't get drafted, but were still starters. Any QB that loses 4 NFL draft picks from their offense, is very likely going to have a dip in their stats. Especially when its not from a powerhouse that just replaces guys every year, like Bama, GA, OSU, etc. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

01-23-2023, 06:11 PM	#125
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,475	Re: The Sam Howell Thread His wheels are very very underrated. I for one feel extremely fortunate that he is on our team and that we snagged him in the fifth. It will go down as an absolute steal one day.

01-23-2023, 09:13 PM	#128
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,000	Re: The Sam Howell Thread UNC finished Top 10 in total yards in 2020 and 2021. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal.../_/season/2021 Howell falling to the 5th for us was a lucky break. Not because every team was right 4 times. Every year, there are tons of players that go way later than they should. Curl and McLaurin being 2 examples just from our team. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

01-23-2023, 10:58 PM	#131
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,475	Re: The Sam Howell Thread They are both the type of guys you go all in for. Nothing like em this year.

02-09-2023, 08:04 PM	#134
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,000	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Commanders teammates laud Sam Howell ahead of huge offseason https://www.yahoo.com/sports/command...222300664.html __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

02-09-2023, 09:11 PM	#135
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,683	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I would take Sam right now with no proven Nfl experience OVER Dak and Russell and Cousins and Carr ( with what they would cost)!and the list goes on and on … if this Kid turns out good then we can spend the money to fill in the holes ..we gotta hope we found a gem in the fifth!!!

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