Welcome Carson Wentz

SFREDSKIN · 03-10-2022, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Interesting take from JP:

@JPFinlayNBCS
Wentz threw for 3500 yards on 63 percent passing last year, 27 TDs vs just 7 INTs. Stats look good. But my biggest concern is Indy just traded for him, and now they trade him without a clear upgrade. Something doesnt add up

Exactly!!!why would his long time coach drop him despite his 27 7 stats after 1 year?

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Summo

NFL Network this morning reported that it was Irsay that wanted to move on not Ballard.

See this makes me feel better, Irsay is a fucking idiot.

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Exactly!!!why would his long time coach drop him despite his 27 7 stats after 1 year?

Irsay

BaltimoreSkins · 03-10-2022, 10:04 AM

13 hours in this thread and we are now debating baseball metaphors. I think we are missing spring training collectively.

Was looking at some of Wentz stats from last season. He had five games where his QB rating was below Heinicke's season average. In those games Indy went 2-3. Two of those games came against Jax. Perhaps sometimes a coach just has a players number?

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

If they want to just have someone hand the ball off 30 times a game Jimmy G can definitely handle that.

Well they have JT, might work.

skinsfan69 · 03-10-2022, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Exactly!!!why would his long time coach drop him despite his 27 7 stats after 1 year?

Empty stats.

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

13 hours in this thread and we are now debating baseball metaphors. I think we are missing spring training collectively.

Was looking at some of Wentz stats from last season. He had five games where his QB rating was below Heinicke's season average. In those games Indy went 2-3. Two of those games came against Jax. Perhaps sometimes a coach just has a players number?

I don't think they match up well against JAX.

Shit Tampa and Tom certainly didn't like playing the Commanders.

Chief X_Phackter · 03-10-2022, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Fine but not a stand up triple.

It is if you are Ricky Henderson.

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 10:17 AM

After a good night sleep and watching that first hard knocks episode I am more excited about this. I think Irsay is a fucking idiot and to blame the Colts collapse solely on Carson is just dumb.

In the end unless we win the draft lottery on a QB no one really much better then Carson is coming here and lets be honest if he was cut from Indy he wasn't picking us.

Honestly instead of focusing on getting a franchise QB through trade/FA the Commanders should go out dumb a ton of money into the best QB scout there is and have him/her find us the next Joe Burrow or that late round Russell Wilson.

skinsfan69 · 03-10-2022, 10:22 AM

It's not just the Jacksonville game. When you have two teams give up on you in two years that is just a huge huge red flag. You can say it was all Irsay to make your argument but the GM didn't give him an endorsement either. Someone was saying that Ballard told Wentz that he "misses the easy routine plays, he's misses the layups."

I see why Ron did what he did. I understand it, I just don't agree w/ it. Wentz simply isn't a good enough player anymore IMO to warrant the draft capital and the salary. It was an overpay and it was a move of a desperate coach.

One third rounder would have been fair. But if he plays 70% which he most likely will then it's a second. I don't agree w/ that. Too much for a guy who would have been on the street next week.

skinsfan69 · 03-10-2022, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

This.

Wentz was a solid double.

I would say it was a double because the 1st basemen let the ball go through his legs. lol.

Chief X_Phackter · 03-10-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would say it was a double because the 1st basemen let the ball go through his legs. lol.

That's an error.

Which this wasn't.

LOL

MTK · 03-10-2022, 10:29 AM

You're always going to pay a premium in a trade for a QB. Always.

If he hits the street as a free agent your chance of getting him goes down significantly.

Desperate move? Of course it's fucking desperate, are we forgetting what a joke we've been at QB since Kirk left? Couple that with a weak QB class and yeah, of course Ron was desperate to upgrade at QB.

Wentz has a lot to prove this year, if he blows it his starting days are probably done.

SFREDSKIN · 03-10-2022, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Irsay

Keep telling yourself that.

skinsfan69 · 03-10-2022, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Alot of you guys will eat some Wentz crow this year.

You seem to be really high on this guy. We all knew Wentz was going to be released but no one on here mentioned picking him up.

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03-10-2022, 10:04 AM	#229
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,676	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz 13 hours in this thread and we are now debating baseball metaphors. I think we are missing spring training collectively. Was looking at some of Wentz stats from last season. He had five games where his QB rating was below Heinicke's season average. In those games Indy went 2-3. Two of those games came against Jax. Perhaps sometimes a coach just has a players number? __________________ Washington Commanders, the crushers of dreams

03-10-2022, 10:17 AM	#234
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,732	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz After a good night sleep and watching that first hard knocks episode I am more excited about this. I think Irsay is a fucking idiot and to blame the Colts collapse solely on Carson is just dumb. In the end unless we win the draft lottery on a QB no one really much better then Carson is coming here and lets be honest if he was cut from Indy he wasn't picking us. Honestly instead of focusing on getting a franchise QB through trade/FA the Commanders should go out dumb a ton of money into the best QB scout there is and have him/her find us the next Joe Burrow or that late round Russell Wilson. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

03-10-2022, 10:22 AM	#235
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz It's not just the Jacksonville game. When you have two teams give up on you in two years that is just a huge huge red flag. You can say it was all Irsay to make your argument but the GM didn't give him an endorsement either. Someone was saying that Ballard told Wentz that he "misses the easy routine plays, he's misses the layups." I see why Ron did what he did. I understand it, I just don't agree w/ it. Wentz simply isn't a good enough player anymore IMO to warrant the draft capital and the salary. It was an overpay and it was a move of a desperate coach. One third rounder would have been fair. But if he plays 70% which he most likely will then it's a second. I don't agree w/ that. Too much for a guy who would have been on the street next week.

03-10-2022, 10:29 AM	#238
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz You're always going to pay a premium in a trade for a QB. Always. If he hits the street as a free agent your chance of getting him goes down significantly. Desperate move? Of course it's fucking desperate, are we forgetting what a joke we've been at QB since Kirk left? Couple that with a weak QB class and yeah, of course Ron was desperate to upgrade at QB. Wentz has a lot to prove this year, if he blows it his starting days are probably done. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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