When is Enough ,Enough?

Giantone · 09-18-2018, 07:15 AM

Trump Obstructing a Federal Investigation!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...inity_20180918

President Trump, in a clear abuse of power, has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering the selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative," Schiff said in a statement.

The president has the authority to declassify any secret in the government, but experts could not recall a president doing so in a manner that seemed to leave aside any concerns raised by his own intelligence advisers.

"This is certainly unprecedented," said Robert Litt, the former general counsel of the ODNI during the Obama administration.

"Between the compromise of sources and methods, the impact on the willingness of people to cooperate, and the potential of selective release of classified material for partisan purposes, I think intelligence officials will find it very troubling."

The FBI had no immediate comment.

Chico23231 · 09-18-2018, 09:53 AM

I know one thing, if Jamie Dimon runs for President Im voting for him

CRedskinsRule · 09-18-2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Trump Obstructing a Federal Investigation!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...inity_20180918

President Trump, in a clear abuse of power, has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering the selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative," Schiff said in a statement.

The president has the authority to declassify any secret in the government, but experts could not recall a president doing so in a manner that seemed to leave aside any concerns raised by his own intelligence advisers.

"This is certainly unprecedented," said Robert Litt, the former general counsel of the ODNI during the Obama administration.

"Between the compromise of sources and methods, the impact on the willingness of people to cooperate, and the potential of selective release of classified material for partisan purposes, I think intelligence officials will find it very troubling."

The FBI had no immediate comment.

We are in an era of true no holds barred politics. This action, Kavanaugh's accuser are just the latest examples of it.

Trump knows that if the House goes democratic he will be impeached.
The Dems know that if they don't try everything to keep a 2nd Trump appointee off the bench, the activists of their party will keep knocking off the more mainstream/long term democrats off the tickets.

It is the continued polarization of our political groups. Either the two find their way back to the center, or we will see a true third party rise that balances social justice with fiscal reality.

I am hoping for the 2nd option, but expecting neither

Giantone · 09-18-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know one thing, if Jamie Dimon runs for President Im voting for him

From what I know of him and that is not much ,he seems capable of doing the job but I would need more info.

Head of JP Morgan Chase.......

punch it in · 09-18-2018, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

.............again "she said". I don't know this women and nether does anyone else . I really have a problem with her story ,Punch you said it yourself "if"...sorry ,I need more than a "she said" type thing before I wreck someone's life from a supposed incident 30 years prior.

jamf, cute little phrase but what I said was..... "Sorry but two drunk teens at a party are equally responsible ...Or "irresponsible " might be better word for their conduct,we are not talking about forcible rape . This man as much as I don't like him and I don't...please make that clear, has been on the court for awhile work for other Presidents ....the women coming forward at this time now seems very strange." I as the Father of three girls take this subject seriously ,very seriously which why to me something just doesn't seem right here with this story...even you say .. I quote..."We don’t know if it’s true and the timing is odd but sexual assault is so common these allegations shouldn’t be disregarded. "end quote ... disregarded ........I never said that . I had the same feeling about the Duke Lacrosse team accusations.

Of course she could be lying which is why i say do their due diligence but your statement read as ...if this happened it is just a couple of crazy kids, and you mentioned innocent ass grabbing.....Im simply saying if her story is true i think it is a complete DQ, and a crime for that matter.

punch it in · 09-18-2018, 02:59 PM

G one I would also reference her coming forward with this as early as 2012 to her therapist. I mean come on alot of kids/adults are taken advantage of and never come forward. On top of that SCJ is sort of a big deal so - no i dont think the timing is strange at all. Nor do i care. If it happened than he is done regardless of the timing.

punch it in · 09-18-2018, 03:22 PM

The best part of it is the Turtle crying foulball. It is about delaying! Really turtle? Really? Garland was stonewalled for a year with absolutely no reason- I mean come the fuck on with this guy.

Giantone · 09-18-2018, 09:21 PM

Punch , I get it I really do. Sexual assault is not a joke and yes she should be heard. As the Dad of three girls I without a doubt feel this is important.I have all so seen women use these types of allegations against people for a multitude of reasons,vindictiveness ,blackmail...and to save face and embarrassment. Is that what happen here,I don't know .You say she came out to her therapist in 2012 and maybe she did I don't know but this man has been going through this process for months now and now she comes out? Look I don't like the guy and I think he is a crappy jurist but this ....if not true ,well ,it should be criminal and if it is true he will face charges .

Giantone · 09-18-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

The best part of it is the Turtle crying foulball. It is about delaying! Really turtle? Really? Garland was stonewalled for a year with absolutely no reason- I mean come the fuck on with this guy.

You know I agree with you here , the tangerine idiot should just shut up.

NC_Skins · 09-20-2018, 12:17 PM

Why is it all the racist bigots support the GOP? Is it because their policies hurt the people they most hate? I'd say yes.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-issues-830726

Listen to this man's interview with a journalist from politico. My mind is just boggled how people are this stupid. Trump has given them the green light to be an open racist.

https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/stat...77846643666944

NC_Skins · 09-20-2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

We are in an era of true no holds barred politics. This action, Kavanaugh's accuser are just the latest examples of it.

Trump knows that if the House goes democratic he will be impeached.
The Dems know that if they don't try everything to keep a 2nd Trump appointee off the bench, the activists of their party will keep knocking off the more mainstream/long term democrats off the tickets.

It is the continued polarization of our political groups. Either the two find their way back to the center, or we will see a true third party rise that balances social justice with fiscal reality.

I am hoping for the 2nd option, but expecting neither

I don't think the House (if Dem controlled) will impeach Trump unless Mueller's report dictates it. It would be a dumb move on their part. Also, even if he is impeached, he still isn't going anywhere (like Clinton). You aren't going to get the 67 Senate votes needed to be removed.

Kavanaugh's accuser actually came out months ago, and even longer considering she's told the story to her husband, friends and therapist. Now, you can make the claim that Feinstein is making it political, but let's leave the accuser out of this.

jamf · 09-20-2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why is it all the racist bigots support the GOP? Is it because their policies hurt the people they most hate? I'd say yes.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-issues-830726

Listen to this man's interview with a journalist from politico. My mind is just boggled how people are this stupid. Trump has given them the green light to be an open racist.

https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/stat...77846643666944

More race baiting NCSKins?
This is shameless of you!
/Sarcasm

mooby · 09-20-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why is it all the racist bigots support the GOP? Is it because their policies hurt the people they most hate? I'd say yes.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-issues-830726

Listen to this man's interview with a journalist from politico. My mind is just boggled how people are this stupid. Trump has given them the green light to be an open racist.

https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/stat...77846643666944

They did a fine job seperating themselves from this nut, but did they return his campaign contribution?

Giantone · 09-28-2018, 10:17 AM

So it's October and we all know what that means................

can't help but think of Halloween........

CRedskinsRule · 09-28-2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

So it's October and we all know what that means................

can't help put think of Halloween........

LOL that's hilarious.

09-18-2018, 07:15 AM	#1291
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,949	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? Trump Obstructing a Federal Investigation! https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...inity_20180918 President Trump, in a clear abuse of power, has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering the selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative," Schiff said in a statement. The president has the authority to declassify any secret in the government, but experts could not recall a president doing so in a manner that seemed to leave aside any concerns raised by his own intelligence advisers. "This is certainly unprecedented," said Robert Litt, the former general counsel of the ODNI during the Obama administration. "Between the compromise of sources and methods, the impact on the willingness of people to cooperate, and the potential of selective release of classified material for partisan purposes, I think intelligence officials will find it very troubling." The FBI had no immediate comment. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

09-18-2018, 09:53 AM	#1292
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,420	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? I know one thing, if Jamie Dimon runs for President Im voting for him

09-18-2018, 02:59 PM	#1296
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,475	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? G one I would also reference her coming forward with this as early as 2012 to her therapist. I mean come on alot of kids/adults are taken advantage of and never come forward. On top of that SCJ is sort of a big deal so - no i dont think the timing is strange at all. Nor do i care. If it happened than he is done regardless of the timing.

09-18-2018, 03:22 PM	#1297
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,475	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? The best part of it is the Turtle crying foulball. It is about delaying! Really turtle? Really? Garland was stonewalled for a year with absolutely no reason- I mean come the fuck on with this guy.

09-18-2018, 09:21 PM	#1298
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,949	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? Punch , I get it I really do. Sexual assault is not a joke and yes she should be heard. As the Dad of three girls I without a doubt feel this is important.I have all so seen women use these types of allegations against people for a multitude of reasons,vindictiveness ,blackmail...and to save face and embarrassment. Is that what happen here,I don't know .You say she came out to her therapist in 2012 and maybe she did I don't know but this man has been going through this process for months now and now she comes out? Look I don't like the guy and I think he is a crappy jurist but this ....if not true ,well ,it should be criminal and if it is true he will face charges . __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

09-20-2018, 12:17 PM	#1300
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,402	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? Why is it all the racist bigots support the GOP? Is it because their policies hurt the people they most hate? I'd say yes. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-issues-830726 Listen to this man's interview with a journalist from politico. My mind is just boggled how people are this stupid. Trump has given them the green light to be an open racist. https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/stat...77846643666944 __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

09-28-2018, 10:17 AM	#1304
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,949	Re: When is Enough ,Enough? So it's October and we all know what that means................ can't help but think of Halloween........ __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread. Last edited by Giantone; 09-28-2018 at 04:32 PM.

When is Enough ,Enough?

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