Redskins Offseason Thread

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

From PFF, nice note on Roullier

A few offensive lines were held back by injuries in 2017, but none were more injury-riddled than the Redskins, who had 12 different players play at least 50 pass-block snaps throughout the season. All told, the Redskins surrendered 181 pressures on 606 passing plays, including 35 QB hits, the fifth-most among offensive lines. There were bright spots, however, as left tackle Trent Williams, despite playing with an injury, proved once again that he’s one of the best offensive tackles in football by being the only left tackle in the league to register 350 pass-block snaps without allowing a sack. The Redskins also got a nice rookie season from center Chase Roullier, who ended the campaign with a pass-blocking efficiency of 98.4, the highest rating recorded by a rookie center since Nick Mangold (99.4) in 2006. If they can stay healthy, the Redskins have the making of one of the better offensive lines in football as we look ahead to 2018.

We're blessed to have Trent Williams. Before him, Chris Samuels. I really hope we can keep the offensive line intact this year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

From PFF, nice note on Roullier

A few offensive lines were held back by injuries in 2017, but none were more injury-riddled than the Redskins, who had 12 different players play at least 50 pass-block snaps throughout the season. All told, the Redskins surrendered 181 pressures on 606 passing plays, including 35 QB hits, the fifth-most among offensive lines. There were bright spots, however, as left tackle Trent Williams, despite playing with an injury, proved once again that he’s one of the best offensive tackles in football by being the only left tackle in the league to register 350 pass-block snaps without allowing a sack. The Redskins also got a nice rookie season from center Chase Roullier, who ended the campaign with a pass-blocking efficiency of 98.4, the highest rating recorded by a rookie center since Nick Mangold (99.4) in 2006. If they can stay healthy, the Redskins have the making of one of the better offensive lines in football as we look ahead to 2018.

Chase has a chance to be a solid lineman for a while, we will see how he does this yr. I spoke with one of the Analyst for the Skins at PFF (I am trying to get to cover them too) and he actually said Brandon graded poorly in pass blocking, I'd have to go watch his snaps but I guess its possible.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Chase has a chance to be a solid lineman for a while, we will see how he does this yr. I spoke with one of the Analyst for the Skins at PFF (I am trying to get to cover them too) and he actually said Brandon graded poorly in pass blocking, I'd have to go watch his snaps but I guess its possible.

Brandon started slow...but finished strong pass blocking. I thought it was noticeable.

Its gonna be big if Chase can step up...his ability could push the Oline from borderline good to great.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Brandon started slow...but finished strong pass blocking. I thought it was noticeable.

Its gonna be big if Chase can step up...his ability could push the Oline from borderline good to great.

I agree, he has the potential to be as good as Z Martin

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Brandon started slow...but finished strong pass blocking. I thought it was noticeable.

Its gonna be big if Chase can step up...his ability could push the Oline from borderline good to great.

I think our weakness is still left guard. That will be the biggest question mark for the Redskins.

[MTK]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.611a95182442

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.611a95182442

What's a coach gonna say...

Thanks for the incognito info for post articles

[Schneed10]

Interesting stuff here from PFF on Inside LB play last year. Mason Foster was rated as the most productive pass rusher from the Inside LB spot. Martrell Spaight was the most efficient run stopper in the league from this spot. And Zach Vigil was 3rd best in passer rating allowed when targeted.

I think all of those things make sense - Spaight is know as a thumper and Vigil did surprisingly well in coverage last year, he acquitted himself well.

The problem is Spaight may be good against the run but he's a disaster in coverage, and Vigil may have defended the pass well but not well enough to avoid being heavily targeted by QBs.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...m_campaign=nfl

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.611a95182442

I was just coming on to log this same story, different site. Shawn getting some love.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Interesting stuff here from PFF on Inside LB play last year. Mason Foster was rated as the most productive pass rusher from the Inside LB spot. Martrell Spaight was the most efficient run stopper in the league from this spot. And Zach Vigil was 3rd best in passer rating allowed when targeted.

I think all of those things make sense - Spaight is know as a thumper and Vigil did surprisingly well in coverage last year, he acquitted himself well.

The problem is Spaight may be good against the run but he's a disaster in coverage, and Vigil may have defended the pass well but not well enough to avoid being heavily targeted by QBs.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...m_campaign=nfl

I'm really hesitant to read too much into the Spaight ranking against the run without more information about where the stops occurred.

Anecdotally, he always was a step behind.

I believe his slow read and reaction stood out more in coverage because you can clearly see the space between where he was compared to where he should be.

I think a SLIGHTLY (not glaring) slow read and reaction by a defender, especially a linebacker can be masked a bit because he usually has some distance when he begins to close on the ball.

When Brown and Foster were healthy, they were making stops for losses and only slight gains. It seems like Spaight was making his sure handed tackles after the player had already gained yardage. (i'm sure injuries to the DLine contributed to this) Spaight just always seemed a step behind to me.

The coaches saw something they didn't like at the end of the year. Despite all the injuries, he didn't get the playing time a true 2nd stringer should have gotten.

I think he is on the roster bubble this year and struggles to make the team.

Thoughts?

[KI Skins Fan]

I think Spaight's greatest liability is that he lacks the speed and quickness to start at the pro level. At his combine, he only ran a 4.88 forty and he had the slowest 3-Cone time in the LB group. I admire him because, although he lacks the some of the athletic gifts others at the pro level have been given, he has worked and studied very hard to earn his place on an NFL roster. Nevertheless, it looks like he may never be a starter because of his relative lack of speed and quickness and, as a reserve, he'll always be fighting for a roster spot over other players who are more athletic than himself.

[JPPT1974]

Yeah as really despite having the lack of speed and quickness needed. He will always play the backup role unfortunately.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Interesting stuff here from PFF on Inside LB play last year. Mason Foster was rated as the most productive pass rusher from the Inside LB spot. Martrell Spaight was the most efficient run stopper in the league from this spot. And Zach Vigil was 3rd best in passer rating allowed when targeted.

I think all of those things make sense - Spaight is know as a thumper and Vigil did surprisingly well in coverage last year, he acquitted himself well.

The problem is Spaight may be good against the run but he's a disaster in coverage, and Vigil may have defended the pass well but not well enough to avoid being heavily targeted by QBs.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...m_campaign=nfl

I do think we have a really solid ILB squad:

-Brown is a beast, if he can fix his coverage flukes (and I think he has the skill to do so), he can be a really great player

-I've said times and times again I think Foster is underrated, he's a true all around LB, more than decent coverage guy, solid tackler, good blitzer, tough mofo... love this player !

-Vigil played well last season, I'd be really curious to see what he can do behind a healthy and efficient DL !

-I respect Spaight because he's a good tackler, but that's about it, so far the game just seems to be a bit too fast for him (wether it's physical skill or reading plays...).

[jamf]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I do think we have a really solid ILB squad:

-Brown is a beast, if he can fix his coverage flukes (and I think he has the skill to do so), he can be a really great player

-I've said times and times again I think Foster is underrated, he's a true all around LB, more than decent coverage guy, solid tackler, good blitzer, tough mofo... love this player !

-Vigil played well last season, I'd be really curious to see what he can do behind a healthy and efficient DL !

-I respect Spaight because he's a good tackler, but that's about it, so far the game just seems to be a bit too fast for him (wether it's physical skill or reading plays...).

I think the ILB position will be a problem this year.

Brown is awesome against the run. He isn't very good in coverage but I don't care, he needs to be going after the ball carrier at all times.

Foster is coming back from a shoulder injury that put him on IR last year.
It's risky banking on him playing 16 games this year so we need backups.

I don't agree with what has been said about Spaight, Him and Brown are the only linebackers that made plays in the backfield. He has good speed and is aggressive. Now his angles to the ball carrier suck. he is too aggressive at time. He is a ST coverage guy and a last resort backup.

Vigil will be coaching HS football in September but will be back around week8 when players start falling apart..

Buchanon will be our backup ILB and he is coming off an ACL injury, Yikes.

We really need Foster and Nicholson to stay healthy.

[Chico23231]

Don’t forget about Harvey-Clemons...

Let Darwinism take place for the depth ILB