Rattay tears groin

Carnage · 05-09-2004, 03:40 PM

They may as well start their youngsters. Seems like a rebuilding year anyway.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-09-2004, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Dorsey did win games for the Canes. He was the leader on offense. Brock Berlin lost games for the Canes. Im not saying hes going to be a great NFL QB, but he was the leader on the Miami offense and lead them to victory. Losing him had more of an impact that anyone of the players that were drafted in the first round.

i think the loses of mcgahee and andre johnson hurt more than the loss of dorsey. granted berlin sucked big time this year, but if he still had those players it would have been a different season for miami even if they only had mcgahee for part of the season.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-09-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnage

They may as well start their youngsters. Seems like a rebuilding year anyway.

that's what its looking like but don't be suprised if even if the 49ers suck, rashaun woods makes a strong push for rookie of the year since he and barlow r the only weapons they have on offense right now.

SKINSnCANES · 05-09-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

i think the loses of mcgahee and andre johnson hurt more than the loss of dorsey. granted berlin sucked big time this year, but if he still had those players it would have been a different season for miami even if they only had mcgahee for part of the season.

No way. He had Portis and mcGahee as his two running backs, both obvioulsy great. But Frank Gore was better than both of them. Gore just has had two knee injuries, but had more natural ability than both of them. And thats saying a lot. Dorsey had great talent around him, but so did brock berlin. Dorsey might never play in the NFL but he was the heart and sole of that team. He made the come back drives when we needed them. But yea, there was so much talent on those teams that it was hard not to lose.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-09-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

No way. He had Portis and mcGahee as his two running backs, both obvioulsy great. But Frank Gore was better than both of them. Gore just has had two knee injuries, but had more natural ability than both of them. And thats saying a lot. Dorsey had great talent around him, but so did brock berlin. Dorsey might never play in the NFL but he was the heart and sole of that team. He made the come back drives when we needed them. But yea, there was so much talent on those teams that it was hard not to lose.

how can anyone prove that gore really had more talent than portis or mcgahee when because of his injuries he never really played? the only significant player berlin had on offense this year was winslow and he never seemed to throw to him.

SmootSmack · 05-10-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I'm the 49ers I'd be all over Kerry Collins.

I think the 49ers are being overly optimistic in thinking Rattay will be ready to roll come week 1.

I heard that the Niners have begun contract negotiations with Kordell Stewart

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-10-2004, 07:33 PM

anyone else watching around the horn when they were talking about this. I nearly :vomit-smi when they said it was completely torn off the bone. i don't know about u guys, but if something like that happened to me, the last thing i'd be worried about would be playing football again in a few monthes. even though i share the sentiments of several other warpath members in their hatred for the 49ers, Rattay has some big time sympathy from me.

MTK · 05-10-2004, 08:02 PM

Yeah I caught that too, like pulling rib meat right off the bone.

Ugh

JWsleep · 05-10-2004, 08:28 PM

Ouch.

jasonskin · 05-11-2004, 12:04 PM

i think they will sign Kordell stewart

BrudLee · 05-11-2004, 12:12 PM

Kordell is a good choice for them, but only because of cap issues. Kordell should be cheap, and Collins and even Warner, who would be better for the team, will be too expensive.

SKINSnCANES · 05-11-2004, 06:07 PM

I hope they get Kordell, because then I think Dorsey will get to start. Kordell is a bum, all he does is throw picks. He used to be athletic, but never had the presence in teh pocket to make the right decision. He had a great year and some decent years, but is way to inconsistent. The 49ers should try to build a QB, they are obvioulsy not going to be an elite team next year.

Daseal · 05-11-2004, 08:08 PM

Kordell is inconsistant, but I think he took a lot of shit last year that didn't need to be taken. He made some good throws but I'd watch his receivers just drop it. I think he could seriously be a talented QB in this league. He's a whole lot better than Dorsey =p

sportscurmudgeon · 05-12-2004, 12:37 AM

1. I don't know if this line is original with John Riggins but that is where I heard it first:

Minor groin surgery = groin surgery they do to somebody else.

2. Kordell Stewart is now and always will be a mediocre QB. Ken Dorsey is now an unknown quantity because he has not yet played in the NFL, but it will tell you a whole lot about him and his future if he can't beat out someone like Stewart on the depth chart. My opinion is that Dorsey is useless as an NFL QB because he does not have the minimum arm strength needed to do the job. But until he plays a while and stinks on the field, that is merely an opinion.

3. If multiple teams are ainterested in Collins, the Niners may not be able to afford him in their "cap-strapped state". It is unlikely that Stewart will be in the middle of an intense bidding war for his QB services.

MTK · 05-12-2004, 09:53 AM

Stewart should have converted to WR when he had the chance. He could have been a damn good WR instead of a mediocre QB.

05-10-2004, 08:28 PM	#24
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Ouch. __________________ Hail from Houston!

05-11-2004, 12:12 PM	#26
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Kordell is a good choice for them, but only because of cap issues. Kordell should be cheap, and Collins and even Warner, who would be better for the team, will be too expensive. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

05-11-2004, 06:07 PM	#27
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	I hope they get Kordell, because then I think Dorsey will get to start. Kordell is a bum, all he does is throw picks. He used to be athletic, but never had the presence in teh pocket to make the right decision. He had a great year and some decent years, but is way to inconsistent. The 49ers should try to build a QB, they are obvioulsy not going to be an elite team next year. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-09-2004, 03:40 PM	#16
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	They may as well start their youngsters. Seems like a rebuilding year anyway.

05-10-2004, 07:33 PM	#22
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	anyone else watching around the horn when they were talking about this. I nearly :vomit-smi when they said it was completely torn off the bone. i don't know about u guys, but if something like that happened to me, the last thing i'd be worried about would be playing football again in a few monthes. even though i share the sentiments of several other warpath members in their hatred for the 49ers, Rattay has some big time sympathy from me.

05-10-2004, 08:02 PM	#23
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Yeah I caught that too, like pulling rib meat right off the bone. Ugh

05-11-2004, 12:04 PM	#25
jasonskin Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: washington dc Age: 43 Posts: 148	i think they will sign Kordell stewart

05-11-2004, 08:08 PM	#28
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Kordell is inconsistant, but I think he took a lot of shit last year that didn't need to be taken. He made some good throws but I'd watch his receivers just drop it. I think he could seriously be a talented QB in this league. He's a whole lot better than Dorsey =p

05-12-2004, 12:37 AM	#29
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	1. I don't know if this line is original with John Riggins but that is where I heard it first: Minor groin surgery = groin surgery they do to somebody else. 2. Kordell Stewart is now and always will be a mediocre QB. Ken Dorsey is now an unknown quantity because he has not yet played in the NFL, but it will tell you a whole lot about him and his future if he can't beat out someone like Stewart on the depth chart. My opinion is that Dorsey is useless as an NFL QB because he does not have the minimum arm strength needed to do the job. But until he plays a while and stinks on the field, that is merely an opinion. 3. If multiple teams are ainterested in Collins, the Niners may not be able to afford him in their "cap-strapped state". It is unlikely that Stewart will be in the middle of an intense bidding war for his QB services.

05-12-2004, 09:53 AM	#30
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Stewart should have converted to WR when he had the chance. He could have been a damn good WR instead of a mediocre QB.

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