Around the NFL Off season thread 1.0

Giantone · 02-08-2018, 06:20 PM

Eli salary for 2018 $10,500,000

Bonus pro rated at another 6.500,000

skinsfan69 · 02-08-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

This move makes BA look smarter IMO, he didn't cave to overpaying a Good not Great QB, and he goes out and gets a proven guy that has won playoff games, something KC and JG have not done yet, hell maybe never will. He also paid him less than those guys so that the team can go out and sign a few FA's that can come in and help now...

Remember SF also gave PG A fat contract of 50M last yr, and yes we missed him but he ain't worth that kind of money.

Bruce has done better than most think honestly.

Bruce is as stupid as stupid gets. He lacks basic common sense. He had to give up valuable compensation for an already average to below average team for a QB that may not be as good. Plus he was too stupid to give Cousins 19 million a year after his 15 season. Lynch was thinking ahead and the 27 million that was paid to JG will be surpassed in a couple years. Lynch knows what he's doing, Bruce has no clue.

CRedskinsRule · 02-08-2018, 06:47 PM

On SF, the also have, before the deal, more than enough(113M) to pay that contract without being in cap hell.

skinsfaninok · 02-08-2018, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bruce is as stupid as stupid gets. He lacks basic common sense. He had to give up valuable compensation for an already average to below average team for a QB that may not be as good. Plus he was too stupid to give Cousins 19 million a year after his 15 season. Lynch was thinking ahead and the 27 million that was paid to JG will be surpassed in a couple years. Lynch knows what he's doing, Bruce has no clue.

Time will tell, I'm not a SF hater at all I'm js Lynch was a great player that doesn't mean he'll be a great GM. Elway looked great until Manning left

SolidSnake84 · 02-08-2018, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Kirk says you like that? Hold my beer

Yes, 100% agree. Kirk will get 30 million a year easy, maybe 31.....

Giantone · 02-08-2018, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Yes, 100% agree. Kirk will get 30 million a year easy, maybe 31.....

Yup that is the number they were throwing out there with 100 million guaranteed. They wouldn't even mention Drew Brees or Arron Rodgers which they said could make it go "significantly higher".

NC_Skins · 02-08-2018, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

On SF, the also have, before the deal, more than enough(113M) to pay that contract without being in cap hell.

That's irrelevant. What it does is set the market rate sky high for mediocre QBs or ones that haven't proven themselves.

CRedskinsRule · 02-09-2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That's irrelevant. What it does is set the market rate sky high for mediocre QBs or ones that haven't proven themselves.

It's relevant to whether or not SF can build a team around JGarr. It does screw with the market I agree, but my point was that SF didnt hurt their team by signing him to that deal. In fact they probably made AZ and Seattle's life a little more miserable, AZs if they want to battle for Cousins and Seattle because Russell Wilson's next contact will be Yuuge.

sdskinsfan2001 · 02-09-2018, 04:48 AM

Makes the Alex Smith trade look even better.

If I pick a QB in the 1st round, in year 3 of that deal I'm picking another QB. If I pick a QB in rounds 2-7, in year 2 of that deal I'm picking another QB. Keep on refreshing them while keeping the rest of the roster stacked.

How many QBs have won more than 1 Super Bowl? 12, and most of these QBs aren't anywhere near recent. You can win SB with a solid starter and good roster. See playoff run of 2017/2018 playoff Eagles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...er_Bowl_starts

skinsfaninok · 02-09-2018, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Makes the Alex Smith trade look even better.

If I pick a QB in the 1st round, in year 3 of that deal I'm picking another QB. If I pick a QB in rounds 2-7, in year 2 of that deal I'm picking another QB. Keep on refreshing them while keeping the rest of the roster stacked.

How many QBs have won more than 1 Super Bowl? 12, and most of these QBs aren't anywhere near recent. You can win SB with a solid starter and good roster. See playoff run of 2017/2018 playoff Eagles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...er_Bowl_starts

Only issue with that theory is QB's dont fall off trees, if you have a franchise guy like an Rodgers, BrADY, BIG BEN, Wilson, you pay those guys.

Kirk Cousins is not an elite level QB and that is why we let him go, why pay him Jimmy $ and fuck your team over as CT said in his interview... Alex Smith is just as good as Kirk IMO and he is making 6-7M less a yr.

skinsfaninok · 02-09-2018, 10:57 AM

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...ign=101p020818

Fuller and Smith both made the list, had TW not been injured all yr he would have made it again and Scherff should be on this but whatever

Giantone · 02-09-2018, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...ign=101p020818

Fuller and Smith both made the list, had TW not been injured all yr he would have made it again and Scherff should be on this but whatever

So what is the "edge" position??? There either Linebackers or Defensive Ends...no such thing as edge.

btfoom · 02-09-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ive-year-deal/

dude got paid off of 5 games, unreal

Jimmy G gets $137 M for 5 years to equal about 27.5M a yr

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Redskins FO deserves credit for getting Alex Smith for MUCH less. Kirk would want something in this range which (a) he's not worth and (b) much more importantly, would cripple the Skins salary cap.

sdskinsfan2001 · 02-09-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Only issue with that theory is QB's dont fall off trees, if you have a franchise guy like an Rodgers, BrADY, BIG BEN, Wilson, you pay those guys.

Kirk Cousins is not an elite level QB and that is why we let him go, why pay him Jimmy $ and fuck your team over as CT said in his interview... Alex Smith is just as good as Kirk IMO and he is making 6-7M less a yr.

Yeah, if you know you have a sure fire 100% stud like Rodgers, pull the trigger, but not for anything less than that.

What a great time to be an NFL QB.

sdskinsfan2001 · 02-09-2018, 12:14 PM

Its a huge difference between 27.5 and 23.5 million, plus Kirk will most likely top that.

Look at all these players or combination of players you can find in the 4 million or less range.

Give me Alex Smith, plus (insert player/players) > Cousins by himself hogging all the money.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...ers/salary.htm

02-08-2018, 06:20 PM	#31
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,949	Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 1.0 Eli salary for 2018 $10,500,000 Bonus pro rated at another 6.500,000 __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

02-08-2018, 06:47 PM	#33
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,384	Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 1.0 On SF, the also have, before the deal, more than enough(113M) to pay that contract without being in cap hell.

02-09-2018, 04:48 AM	#39
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,000	Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 1.0 Makes the Alex Smith trade look even better. If I pick a QB in the 1st round, in year 3 of that deal I'm picking another QB. If I pick a QB in rounds 2-7, in year 2 of that deal I'm picking another QB. Keep on refreshing them while keeping the rest of the roster stacked. How many QBs have won more than 1 Super Bowl? 12, and most of these QBs aren't anywhere near recent. You can win SB with a solid starter and good roster. See playoff run of 2017/2018 playoff Eagles. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...er_Bowl_starts __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

02-09-2018, 10:57 AM	#41
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,114	Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 1.0 https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...ign=101p020818 Fuller and Smith both made the list, had TW not been injured all yr he would have made it again and Scherff should be on this but whatever __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

02-09-2018, 12:14 PM	#45
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,000	Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 1.0 Its a huge difference between 27.5 and 23.5 million, plus Kirk will most likely top that. Look at all these players or combination of players you can find in the 4 million or less range. Give me Alex Smith, plus (insert player/players) > Cousins by himself hogging all the money. https://www.pro-football-reference.c...ers/salary.htm __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

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