Bittersweet post game thread.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It's not playing scared, it's playing smart. The Defense was running on fumes.

If the offense had manned up in the 2nd quarter and put up some more points, perhaps they wouldn't be in this situation.

Losing sucks, but I thin we've taken a big step this season. Let's hope everyone is rested and healthy after the bye.

On defense, yes.

The offense IMO has taken a step back, two steps back at WR. Skins/Kirk still are awful in the red zone. Whenever we are in the red zone and settle for 3, that is a major dagger.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

On defense, yes.

The offense IMO has taken a step back, two steps back at WR. Skins/Kirk still are awful in the red zone. Whenever we are in the red zone and settle for 3, that is a major dagger.

We were pretty awful in the red zone in the previous year, so that to me remains the same.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can't play scared there and hindsight is always 20/20. KC put it on Doc and he has to catch that. And I feel Doc makes that play more times than not. Score a td, man up on d and win the game. We ain't quite there yet...

I’ve got no problem with it either, in fact that’s exactly what I wanted them to do. Take a shot to potentially win it, settle for the tie if it doesn’t work.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

On defense, yes.

The offense IMO has taken a step back, two steps back at WR. Skins/Kirk still are awful in the red zone. Whenever we are in the red zone and settle for 3, that is a major dagger.

Ok you play GM here. Would you have paid Garcon 23 million over 2 years, like the 49ers did? Would you give Jackson 20 million over two years? He has a whopping 9 catches and 1 td for Tampa. I know I would have let both walk for that amount of money. Especially when the defense needed to be upgraded and you have a potential stud in Doc. Having two 10 million plus FA WR's is not a winning formula. So tired of the Garcon and Jackson talk.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Ok you play GM here. Would you have paid Garcon 23 million over 2 years, like the 49ers did? Would you give Jackson 20 million over two years? He has a whopping 9 catches and 1 td for Tampa. I know I would have let both walk for that amount of money. Especially when the defense needed to be upgraded and you have a potential stud in Doc. Having two 10 million plus FA WR's is not a winning formula. So tired of the Garcon an8d Jackson talk.

It's all risk reward, I have done the same. My point is on the field right now it isn't working out.

As far as djax, the threat of him opens up other people. Mike Evans has 19 catches 224 yards and 2 TDs. That is through 3 games not 4. See Crowder for the example of a missing Djax.

Also, if you are sick about talking about the Redskins stop coming to a Redskins forum. If you want be more specific avoid WR talk.

[mooby]

One non-call I'm disappointed in was Mitchell's PI on Vernon Davis on that big hit he took. I freezed the frame and you can clearly see Mitchell lay the wood right before the ball got there. It's a crappy shot but you can still tell:


Did that lose us the game? No, but it didn't help. Yeah if Doctson catches that ball all is forgiven. TBH I'm more concerned with the L we took in the injury column. On the bright side this bye week came just at the right time.

Edit: Matty did you disable images or something?

https://imgur.com/a/nJrTf

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by rickmmrr

Great effort, but how could the defensive game plan not emphasize keeping Smith in the pocket. F#%King bad angles all night long.

It was clear the defensive edges were keyed not to let Hunt bounce out. That's not really that surprising is it? If you are letting Smith or Hunt get a downfield lane, which would you be more worried about?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

We were pretty awful in the red zone in the previous year, so that to me remains the same.

Totally agree, just saying the issue remains. My hop was the height of JD and Pryor was going to cure those ills.Not so much so far.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It was clear the defensive edges were keyed not to let Hunt bounce out. That's not really that surprising is it? If you are letting Smith or Hunt get a downfield lane, which would you be more worried about?

I didn't know anything about Kareem Hunt besides the fact that he racked up yards in the first few games of the season. I figured he would be a speed type back, had no idea he was quite the banger. He looked like what we expect Samaje Perrine to look like.

[mredskins]

I know folks are sick of WR talk but that drop by Doctson was literally a team and player altering moment, assuming defense held on. Imagine if that was the winning catch, super frustrating.

[calia]

I was concerned that Kelley was banged up and that Brown was inactive. Dumb move. That left Perine (inconsistent) and CT (not an every down back) as our only options and time of possession went out the window. Not being able to run and sustain drives kept our D on the field too long, as did dumb penalties and a few terrible calls. Very frustrating.

On to Landover!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Totally agree, just saying the issue remains. My hop was the height of JD and Pryor was going to cure those ills.Not so much so far.

I think we have seen baby step progress from both receivers. Had Doctson held onto that it would be a far different discussion right now. He didn't so there is frustration. A few more games and I think both Doctson and Pryor will be making their presence known.

All that said, it is clear that Crowder was by far the biggest beneficiary of DJax and Garcon, and he needs to make himself a bigger factor as Pryor and Doctson start making deep catches.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Preston Smith doesn't line up offsides and Doctson makes that catch the Chiefs get the ball back on their final possession down 24-16. Whole new ball game at that point.

In general, and specifically against other good teams, the game is won or lost on a couple plays.

[MTK]

I thought the neutral zone call on Smith near the goal line was total BS.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by MTK

I thought the neutral zone call on Smith near the goal line was total BS.

Fuckin cheaters man.