Next years QB

[irish]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Despite the fact that Jay Gruden said that RGIII is the No.1 QB going into next season, I don't think that things will work out for Robert here.

I think RG going into the season as the starter definitely came down from DS. I also think JG will move forward with this so that in the likely event it doesnt work out JG will be able to go back to DS and say "we tried it twice with your guy so now we are going to try my guy".

[Hog1]

People in general.......always want to envision that DS is behind all provocative decisions regarding the team. As heard on m&m this morning, I'd be more inclined to believe it is more an issue of reducing offseason drama And BS speculation

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Pretty clear he's pointing the finger in a big way at Snyder

Mike Shanahan blames Daniel Snyder for RGIII’s infatuation with being an Aaron Rodgers-type guy - The Washington Post

I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.

Good points, Id probably believe half of it. I think Shanny did want McNabb and was good with it. I do believe the Shanny part where he accused of Snyder of meddling because Snyder clearly has a history of that.

[donofriose]

How about all four sucked/suck.

Shanahan was/is obviously a big reason why this team was terrible. Allen was/is a big reason why this team sucks. Snyder was/is a big reason why this team sucks. Griffin has shown more bad than good, so he sucks.

Everyone that has run this franchise for the past 15 years has sucked and still sucks. That is why this franchise is one of the worst franchises in the NFL.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Bingo.

Mike Shanahan did his share in continuing to f*ck this franchise over. Can't believe some people here believe everything he says or act like he's a f*cking victim. He can go to hell for all I care.

I don't believe everything he says. But the stuff about Griffin I believe 100%. What part of his interview do you think he lied about?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by donofriose

How about all four sucked/suck.

Shanahan was/is obviously a big reason why this team was terrible. Allen was/is a big reason why this team sucks. Snyder was/is a big reason why this team sucks. Griffin has shown more bad than good, so he sucks.

Everyone that has run this franchise for the past 15 years has sucked and still sucks. That is why this franchise is one of the worst franchises in the NFL.

All starts at the top, we easily have one of the worst owner in all of sports. He is the one constant.

[MTK]

I'm not debating there is some truth to what Mike is saying, but my problem with him has always been he doesn't take any blame on himself.

And what's his motivation at this point to keep talking about the past? He's obviously trying to remove some of the tarnish on his name. There isn't a more convenient person to point the finger at than Snyder.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

All starts at the top, we easily have one of the worst owner in all of sports. He is the one constant.

I agree.

Shanahan still deserves a lot of the blame. Just like everyone else.

[Evilgrin]

Shanahan was happy to get along when he was getting 7 million a year...

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Shanahan was happy to get along when he was getting 7 million a year...

i always wondered how much truth the rumor had that shanny wanted to quit before the seahawks playoff game.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm not debating there is some truth to what Mike is saying, but my problem with him has always been he doesn't take any blame on himself.

And what's his motivation at this point to keep talking about the past? He's obviously trying to remove some of the tarnish on his name. There isn't a more convenient person to point the finger at than Snyder.

And the morons in the local media are always willing to stir things up.

[Ruhskins]

I find it interesting that no one is mentioning the fact that Scot McC said in his initial presser that the team should not give up on RG3. It is very likely that his opinion on this matter has led to RG3 being named the starter by J. Gruden.

As I said, I personally don't have a problem with this, as long as the team starts to rebuild other areas of the offense, special teams, and defense. You give RG3 his final shot, and if it doesn't work you at least have the infrastructure to bring in a new QB next season.

[Schneed10]

One thing nobody's mentioning and that's the casual way that Jay Gruden tends to answer questions. When he says we're going with Robert as the number one guy, I don't think that's intended as a firm commitment to RG3. I think it simply means that he will get the starter's reps in OTAs and minicamps, and then probably leading into training camp. But I don't think it means that Cousins is ruled out from having the opportunity to unseat Robert.

If Jay finds in training camp that Robert is still behind as a pocket passer and that Cousins looks better, I think he'll make the switch.

I think it's a very non committal thing at this point, based on the fact that he hates Cousins's woe-is-me approach when he gets intercepted, so much that Robert is the best of a bunch of very shitty options.

[redskinsfan1980]

I think the reason RG3 has been placed at the top of the depth chart going into next season is because of how much we invested to get him. We gave up two first rounders and a second. I don't think it's just about Snyder calling all of the shots. I think the organization as a whole want things to work out with Griffin. Keep in mind, RG3 is only 24 years old, he has time to improve as a pocket passer. I believe with time he can develop into a great qb. The problem with him is all the comes with him. He's always going to be a distraction no matter what he says or does. If he goes on facebook as says, "God loves everyone." Someone is going to have a problem it and bash him as humanly possible. Whether it's fair or not, this is the reality, RG3 comes with a lot of unwanted baggage.