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Old 02-17-2015, 02:34 PM   #1
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This seems very telling to me that Gruden has completely moved on from RG# and wants Cousins to be his future.

Kirk Cousins is doing offseason drills with Jon Gruden - The Washington Post
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Old 02-17-2015, 02:38 PM   #2
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I wonder what Snyder thinks of this? He isn't a big cousins fan, but is a big fan of Jon.
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Old 02-17-2015, 02:59 PM   #3
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Cousins could definitely be our starting QB if he can cut down on the interceptions. I did not and do not understand why anyone would want to trade him.

Just because we paid too much for RGIII is no reason to try to get something back on that poor deal by trading Cousins. Cousins is a productive young QB who actually is a better fit for this system than RGIII.

I have supported RGIII in the past but I've recently come to believe that he doesn't have the right attitude to succeed here. I doubt that Dan Snyder will protect RGIII this coming season, so we're probably going to need Cousins.
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Old 02-17-2015, 03:24 PM   #4
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Re: Next years QB

Wants Cousins to be his future? Or thinks Cousins is his future?

The wording in the original post implies Gruden carries a bias. I think the reality is he sees Cousins as the better fit, and the one who can take coaching better.
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Old 02-17-2015, 03:32 PM   #5
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I think he sees him as and wants him to be the QB of the future, due to system fit and coachability.
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Old 02-17-2015, 04:55 PM   #6
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The last two years RGIII has been rehabbing, KC has had chances to do take the spot and he hasn't and when given the chance he throws INT's. I don't care who the QB is I just want us to win, I hate when people say KC wasn't given a chance like RGIII was he's been rehabbing most off-seasons.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:16 PM   #7
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I think this at least says that KC will be part of the QB competition. There is no way Jay didn't know about this, and there is no way he's not communicating with his brother.

I just hope one of these guys separates themselves from the other and takes the job and runs with it.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:06 PM   #8
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Jay sure didn't show anything to believe Cousins was his guy last year. Even when he had the chance to go back to him he left him inactive. Kinda telling.

Sounds like this is more about Cousins trying to take advantage of every opportunity possible. Smart on his part, but it doesn't say anything about what Jay is thinking.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:30 PM   #9
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Jay sure didn't show anything to believe Cousins was his guy last year. Even when he had the chance to go back to him he left him inactive. Kinda telling.

Sounds like this is more about Cousins trying to take advantage of every opportunity possible. Smart on his part, but it doesn't say anything about what Jay is thinking.
I think Griffin playing the last few games was more about politics. There was no way he wasn't going to play once McCoy got hurt. And there was no way he could drop Griffin to 3rd string.

This year I believe that's all done. The best guy, whomever that's going to be, is going to play. Griffin's leash is gone.

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Old 02-17-2015, 08:39 PM   #10
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I think Griffin playing the last few games was more about politics. There was no way he wasn't going to play once McCoy got hurt.

This year I believe that's done. The best guy, whomever that's going to be, is going to play. Griffin's leash is gone.
I agree. The end of last season put a lot of Griffin's play on tape in a lot of different situations.

Jay already knows who he wants to play out of the QBs on the roster. He has the film to sit down with whoever and make the case for his decision.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:02 PM   #11
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Washington Redskins mailbag: Part 2 - ESPN

One thing we do know, is that RGIII isn't in the plans.



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@john_keim: Griffin's problems are way beyond the line, and people need to quit thinking that will solve all his problems. It won't. I have yet to hear anyone in the organization -- from coaches, executives or players -- say Griffin would be fine if only the protection was better. Nobody wants the kid to succeed more than those in the organization whose livelihoods depend on wins and losses. In other words, they are not rooting against him. They just don't feel he can do the job. There were definitely times protection was an issue, but you'll never have great protection all the time (and there is no rule saying you still can't make good decisions). As for the quarterbacks coach, yes he can help Griffin, but if he doesn't improve, it all goes back to the quarterback. Can't keep blaming: coaches, protection, this, that, the other.



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Keim: Goodness, that's a lot of excuses for one player in one question. First off, I wouldn't say any player who is 25 with his talent is done. But I would ask: Doesn't it concern you in the least that numerous coaches and teammates have severe doubts about him? They are the ones delivering this message. Sure, the line could be better -- but good quarterbacks overcome such lines. I'm all for sticking by the kid and hoping/believing he can improve. This will be only his second legitimate NFL offseason, so we'll get a chance to see how much difference that makes. But to blame all his previous issues on everyone else ignores reality: he misses plays, relies too much on his legs, and lacks the explosion he had as a rookie. No quarterback has all the time in the world and works with All-Pro receivers, which is what many seem to think Griffin needs. If that's the case, he's not who they thought he was when they drafted him. Griffin has to improve his game if he wants to remain a starter.

Shutting those BobThreeSticks fanboys down. I love it. Tired of hearing their bullshit excuses about the guy.
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I think Griffin playing the last few games was more about politics. There was no way he wasn't going to play once McCoy got hurt. And there was no way he could drop Griffin to 3rd string.

This year I believe that's all done. The best guy, whomever that's going to be, is going to play. Griffin's leash is gone.
Get ready for more Griffin.
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Old 02-17-2015, 11:51 PM   #13
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i'd be surprised if griffin wasn't handed the opening day starting job... unless he looks straight up terrible in the offseason. I'm not saying that because that's what i want, but because i think that's how it's going to play out.

kirk's int problems go back to high school, so don't get your hopes up that they'll end any time soon. his inability to get past mistakes is fixable, but i've never seen someone lose it so quickly after one mistake.
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Old 02-18-2015, 12:11 AM   #14
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Griffin and Cousins should have a legitimate competition this offseason. They need to be on equal ground in the teams' eyes before training camp starts. Give the job to whichever performs better in the next 8 months.

Meanwhile, we need to continue to improve the offensive line. Not by signing high-dollar free agents and not necessarily by using high draft picks, but keep signing these young free agents like Nixon and Larsen, and draft some more offensive linemen late and maybe a developmental center in the mid rounds. Try to get better at tight end and running back when it comes to pass blocking, whether that's through value free agents or the draft.

After the season's over, evaluate your starting QB... if he played well enough to stay, commit to him with an extension and move on from the loser. The moves we made this year as well as the OL picks we took last year should start paying off to a larger degree and this should help the starter continue to improve.

If your starting QB played poorly, well, you're in the market for a new guy with both Griffin and Cousins walking.

I also think we should let McCoy walk and either draft or sign a rookie QB to start developing.

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Old 02-18-2015, 12:55 AM   #15
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I hope John can work some magic on Big Cuz? His INT is coachable but I don't know if it can happen in one offseason?
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