2015 Redskins Coaches/Coordinators News

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1) I don't believe, never believed, they were truly close to getting Fangio nor that either side really wanted anything to happen

2) Raheem has since the day he arrived been much more than a position coach, he's very influential on the staff. Was he calling the defense? I can't say that for sure

3) Raheem interviewing with other teams doesn't mean the Redskins don't like him

4) Jsteelz has been very very wrong on things before, but who hasn't? He's well connected. He and I bounce information off each other all the time. Sometimes we confirm what the other is hearing, other times we have completely different information

5) Keep in mind reporters get information from not just public facing people (players, coaches) but also those behind the scenes. The ones that the Jsteelz of the world connects with

6) Mainstream media is also limited by rules like "off the record" and "on background" that others are not

7) I don't know if Haslett left for any reason other than he knew his leash was very very short

Thanks.

Fair or unfair, I think its time for Morris to move on (which I think is paraphrasing of something you have said previously). For any number of reasons, this defensive (and coaching staff in general) need a clean sweep and for Gruden to sink or swim with folks of his choosing not remnants of past staff/FO choices.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah but that was for a DC position, a step up from his current role. I don't think they can even stop that, isn't it against the rules (even if they're unwritten) to prevent someone from interviewing for a promotion?

They could have just given him the DC job if they're so high on him. The rumor doesn't pass the sniff test for me.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

They could have just given him the DC job if they're so high on him. The rumor doesn't pass the sniff test for me.

They knew fans weren't going to have any of that non-sense. Hell, it's why they dragged their feet on the Barry deal.

[CRedskinsRule]

SS, its probably been asked before, but I am just wondering if the level of rumor and innuendo that the Redskins garner in the media would be league average in your mind, or are there specific actors(disgruntled media, ownership people, etc) that make the snitch/rumor culture of the Skins even worse.

Another way to say it does DS/BA actively use gossipmongering more than other franchises, or are there media with such a large ax to grind that they will always post negative information at a higher rate than other franchises?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They knew fans weren't going to have any of that non-sense. Hell, it's why they dragged their feet on the Barry deal.

Yet they still hired him. So much for not wanting to tick off the fans.

I don't buy that theory much either. They were going to hire him all along. News got out before they wanted it to, they still wanted to talk to Fangio and they wisely did their due diligence, and in the end they went with plan A when it was obvious Fangio wasn't interested.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yet they still hired him. So much for not wanting to tick off the fans.

I don't buy that theory much either. They were going to hire him all along. News got out before they wanted it to, they still wanted to talk to Fangio and they wisely did their due diligence, and in the end they went with plan A when it was obvious Fangio wasn't interested.

It makes perfect sense. Remember that report that they had hired Barry and shit hit the fan in terms of fan reaction? Quickly after you saw them retract that and interview Fangio and couple other people. Then put out a report that Vic didn't want to be in Washington. That way they can tell the fans...."see, look, we did everything we could to get in a good DC".....so back to Barry.

Barry over Wade Phillips? That should tell you all you need to know.

[rocnrik]

Has Wade Phillips had interviews with any other teams? I have not heard..

[DYoungJelly]

Did Morris really hire Barry at Tampa after Barry was terminated in Detroit?

Barry might have gotten the job because he could/would work with Morris.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Has Wade Phillips had interviews with any other teams? I have not heard..

No one yet. Keep an eye on Denver, he was Kubiak's DC in Texas.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

SS, its probably been asked before, but I am just wondering if the level of rumor and innuendo that the Redskins garner in the media would be league average in your mind, or are there specific actors(disgruntled media, ownership people, etc) that make the snitch/rumor culture of the Skins even worse.

Another way to say it does DS/BA actively use gossipmongering more than other franchises, or are there media with such a large ax to grind that they will always post negative information at a higher rate than other franchises?

I don't think disgruntled media, ownership, etc is more here than it is elsewhere, or than it was before Snyder took over. And "dry snitching" isn't more so here either.

It just seems to garner a stronger reaction here from fans than in other places.

I can't stress enough though that the majority of the media (of course there's always the outlier) does not enjoy dealing with losing/bickering teams. Those who've never actually had to work in the media and regularly cover a team think this is what the media thrives on-controversy, losing, etc. That could not be further from the truth.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It makes perfect sense. Remember that report that they had hired Barry and shit hit the fan in terms of fan reaction? Quickly after you saw them retract that and interview Fangio and couple other people. Then put out a report that Vic didn't want to be in Washington. That way they can tell the fans...."see, look, we did everything we could to get in a good DC".....so back to Barry.

Barry over Wade Phillips? That should tell you all you need to know.

I believe it was just Ian Rapaport that initially said the deal was completed. Most everyone else said it was close and not a done deal. And a few said one reason it was not done yet was because the door was still open on a meeting with Fangio.

In other words, I think Fangio was on their list for a while. Well, we know it was. Were they genuinely interested in Fangio, or was it just a "fact finding mission"? I don't know

But in general I don't believe the Redskins should listen to fan sentiment. Fans are so proud of changing the Redskins' mind on proven HC Jim Fassel (a story that I think/know is way overblown), but what did that get us? Jim Zorn

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think disgruntled media, ownership, etc is more here than it is elsewhere, or than it was before Snyder took over. And "dry snitching" isn't more so here either.

It just seems to garner a stronger reaction here from fans than in other places.

I can't stress enough though that the majority of the media (of course there's always the outlier) does not enjoy dealing with losing/bickering teams. Those who've never actually had to work in the media and regularly cover a team think this is what the media thrives on-controversy, losing, etc. That could not be further from the truth.

Thanks for the solid answer.

[rocnrik]

Thanks for the update on Wade! It looks like he will be going to denver..WOW what a wacky move they made by letting Fox go ..as I see it they went backwards..oh well .

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It makes perfect sense. Remember that report that they had hired Barry and shit hit the fan in terms of fan reaction? Quickly after you saw them retract that and interview Fangio and couple other people. Then put out a report that Vic didn't want to be in Washington. That way they can tell the fans...."see, look, we did everything we could to get in a good DC".....so back to Barry.



Barry over Wade Phillips? That should tell you all you need to know.

Too much tinfoil hat wearing for my taste.

[T.O.Killa]

I hate Raheem, I can't believe they are firing our good coaches and keeping him. I never felt our linebackers or d-line were ever poorly coached. Our secondary has done nothing but look stupid and under coached. Last year we fired the best running back coach in recent history. It is absolutely mind boggling. Keep the crap and get rid of the cream. WTF.