The Wilson Blueprint

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Not sure anybody is arguing against that. There biggest issues they face are with the salary cap in the next couple of years. They have to pay Russell and Okung big time money so it'll be interesting to see. If they draft well, they'll continue the dominance, if not, they'll taper off.

Seattle Seahawks Salary Caps by Year

Thanks for the great link, NCSkins, like looking at our team. Washington Redskins Player Contracts, Salaries, & Transactions

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah dont know about that, if anything the Seattle offense is the one that benefited from Wilson's confidence and leadership. Go back to Wilson college career, his leadership and confidence been there-it was defining factor of why he went as high as he did in the draft.

Seattle's offense has benefited from Wilson's good decision making and his ability to take care of the ball. However, up until last year I would say, he wasn't asked to do a lot, which helped in these aspects. This year, I see Wilson doing more, especially in games when Lynch has been taken out of the equation. Still, it helps him tremendously to have that defense that gives Seattle the luxury of rarely playing from behind.

Wilson is a very good QB and there have been examples in the past of young QBs who have not taken advantages of having an elite defense and good running game. The Jets were successful with Sanchez in his first year or so, because that Jets didn't ask him to do much. But when it came for him to do something, he wasn't able to. As we can clearly see, this is not the case with Wilson. He still has the advantage of an elite defense and running game, but he's showing that when needed, he can take matters into his own hands with his running and passing.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Actually on the play when he got hurt, all he had to do was throw the ball early when Jackson broke open. If he had done that then there was no reason be a hero.

This is the big difference between the relative development of Cousins and Griffin. Cousins anticipates a receiver breaking open, and throws to a spot. Griffin often holds the ball too long, even when a receiver is running free. Had he thrown the ball when Jackson first broke free, Griffin is probably still in the lineup today. He must improve his recognition and anticipation if he is to ever be an effective pocket passer. There's a reason that great pocket passers with limited mobility like Manning rarely get sacked - the ball is out of his hand before the defense has a chance to reach him. Wilson is becoming the best of both worlds - excellent recognition of what the defense is doing, with the wheels to extend plays when necessary, or to run for big yardage when the defensive seas part. This is the type of playmaker that I still hold hope for Griffin becoming.

[calia]

^ excellent post -- agreed

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

This is the big difference between the relative development of Cousins and Griffin. Cousins anticipates a receiver breaking open, and throws to a spot. Griffin often holds the ball too long, even when a receiver is running free. Had he thrown the ball when Jackson first broke free, Griffin is probably still in the lineup today. He must improve his recognition and anticipation if he is to ever be an effective pocket passer. There's a reason that great pocket passers with limited mobility like Manning rarely get sacked - the ball is out of his hand before the defense has a chance to reach him. Wilson is becoming the best of both worlds - excellent recognition of what the defense is doing, with the wheels to extend plays when necessary, or to run for big yardage when the defensive seas part. This is the type of playmaker that I still hold hope for Griffin becoming.

Cousins is better at anticipating the receivers getting open. I definitely agree with that. I think he's also shown the ability to anticipate the coverages and take the shots down field when it looks like there can be some success. But I still believe that Griffin gives you a better chance at success overall, IF he can stay healthy. Honestly, we haven't seen enough of RGIII this year to really know if he was about to take that next step or not. One and one quarter games is just not enough time. After four games, we see that Cousins can play well but can also play horribly, but when it comes down to it, wins is what matters. And Cousins just has not given us the wins. RGIII has proven to get us wins when he's perfectly healthy, so I'm not ready to turn my back on RGIII unless Cousins never loses a game from this weekend on.

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by Coff

What they didn't really mention in the Wilson Blueprint is a dominant defense that creates turnovers and a functional special teams.
I just find the whole RGIII discussion tiring, as if there's something wrong with how he plays. He has two seasons under his belt. In the first, he had a MVP caliber season. In the 2nd, he had pedestrian stats, forgivable since he had a knee he shouldn't have been playing on and one of the worst defenses in the history of the organization. My point is, had the Seahawks drafted Griffin and the Skins drafter Wilson, right now we'd be talking about the Griffin Blueprint and how Wilson should be more like that.

Bingo.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

This is the big difference between the relative development of Cousins and Griffin. Cousins anticipates a receiver breaking open, and throws to a spot. Griffin often holds the ball too long, even when a receiver is running free. Had he thrown the ball when Jackson first broke free, Griffin is probably still in the lineup today. He must improve his recognition and anticipation if he is to ever be an effective pocket passer. There's a reason that great pocket passers with limited mobility like Manning rarely get sacked - the ball is out of his hand before the defense has a chance to reach him. Wilson is becoming the best of both worlds - excellent recognition of what the defense is doing, with the wheels to extend plays when necessary, or to run for big yardage when the defensive seas part. This is the type of playmaker that I still hold hope for Griffin becoming.

I think for Griffin that all comes with staying in the same offense for a few years, running the same plays over and over, getting comfortable with his wr's and not getting hurt. That was suppose to happen this year. I find it laughable that after 9 plays against a terrible team, everyone was thinking he had arrived. Maybe he gets back in there at some point this season.

I also sort of get the feeling ( based by Jay's and Jon's comments) that Gruden prefers a guy that is more pro ready, a more traditional type of QB to run his offense. It will be interesting to see how it plays out the remainder of the year, and next year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Cousins is better at anticipating the receivers getting open. I definitely agree with that. I think he's also shown the ability to anticipate the coverages and take the shots down field when it looks like there can be some success. But I still believe that Griffin gives you a better chance at success overall, IF he can stay healthy. Honestly, we haven't seen enough of RGIII this year to really know if he was about to take that next step or not. One and one quarter games is just not enough time. After four games, we see that Cousins can play well but can also play horribly, but when it comes down to it, wins is what matters. And Cousins just has not given us the wins. RGIII has proven to get us wins when he's perfectly healthy, so I'm not ready to turn my back on RGIII unless Cousins never loses a game from this weekend on.

We're still a one win team if Griffin played all 5 games. The overall team has to improve if either guy is ever going to be successful.

[Evilgrin]

There is no blueprint..

[calia]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We're still a one win team if Griffin played all 5 games. The overall team has to improve if either guy is ever going to be successful.

I am not so sure about that. It's hard to say what Griffin might have done in the Eagles game, for example, which came down to the wire. Would he have wilted on the last drive? The 2012 RGIII wouldn't have, and we haven't seen enough 2014 RGIII to know, in my view. Also, there's no way the Giants game is a blowout with RGIII -- he's not had games with mutliple turnovers like Kirk had, and 31 points (the margin of the loss) were on turnovers. RGIII's mobility would likely have altered the approach the Giants would have taken to rushing the QB, which could have opened up the running game as well, not to mention might have enabled us to avoid sacks and rushed passes. Given the importance of the position, and the differences between RGIII and Cousins, I just don't know how one can conclude that every game leads to the same result, irresepctive of our QB.

Having said all of that, I also don't see how anyone could quibble that every element of our game needs to step it up (except perhaps our punter -- the guy is pretty dawn good). At the moment, with the potential exception of Way and Kerrigan, it's hard to single out anyone on the team and say, "Yeah, he's slaying it this season."

[tc2deuce]

Griff better have been watching 5 hours of game film everyday since his injury.

[SirLK26]

Dude. He's a diva. He never watches film or works on his game. He spends all his time tweeting and making commercials.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Dude. He's a diva. He never watches film or works on his game. He spends all his time tweeting and making commercials.

Wow. Glad to hear that someone on this board spends so much time at Redskins Park that he knows how much time Griffin studies film and works on his game. Duly noted.

[Ruhskins]

Looks like the Wilson Blueprint doesn't work so well when the running game and the defense don't play well.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Wow. Glad to hear that someone on this board spends so much time at Redskins Park that he knows how much time Griffin studies film and works on his game. Duly noted.

LOL. It was a joke bruh. Generally I add a or a to these posts, but I figured this one was obvious enough. My bad.