Skins vs Seasquawks Positive and Negatives

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I hear you and agree.

On the other hand. The Skins need a QB. There was nothing else out there to get. PM didn't want to come to us, Luck went first overall, and our crystal ball was broken (drafting Wilson). Who else since that draft has there been available that is great QB or the potential to be one?


Honestly to bad the Cutler trade never went through.

I dont mind Cutler and think he is decent. But he is one that I think will never win a Superbowl. I just cant see it.

[diehardskin2982]

They need to attack and not play soft at the beginning of games.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The Red Zebra media seems to always give Haslett a pass. He doesn't make adjustments and needs to be let go. Give Morris a shot to run the defense. Can't call games and play them scared. Throw to open up the run. It seems that opposing defenses are game planning for the Run.

That's a trap. Morris has had 0 experience in running a 3-4. I'd rather keep Haz until the end of the season.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I dont mind Cutler and think he is decent. But he is one that I think will never win a Superbowl. I just cant see it.

He is better then what we have now and would have stopped us from making that retarded RGIII draft.

At this point I don't want a super bowl I just want watch a team that doesn't look like a shit stain on my underwear.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

He is better then what we have now and would have stopped us from making that retarded RGIII draft.

At this point I don't want a super bowl I just want watch a team that doesn't look like a shit stain on my underwear.

I think you just found your new sig.

[MTK]

The major things that stood out to me between these two teams last night were team speed and the play in the trenches. We were just outmanned in those areas. I hope in year 2 Gruden continues to upgrade both lines.

[SirLK26]

The good, the bad, and the ugly from Redskins vs. Seahawks | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

—The postgame locker room atmosphere was not exactly festive but in the opinion of many in the media there was too much laughter and joking around going on among players for a team that just lost to fall to 1-4. You don’t necessarily want the atmosphere to be funeral-like after a loss but it should be a bit more somber than it was.

<sigh> Definitely a negative...



Why was the defense so night and day at times? If we weren't forcing one of our 9 3-and-outs, we were letting Wilson and Lynch walk all over us. That said, the defense played well enough to win. Meanwhile, the offense outside of Jackson was at very best mediocre, and that dumb little squib kick thing concocted by Forbath and Gruden was part of the reason.

I laugh at the people who are saying we should have went for it on 4th down deep in their territory. WTF is really all I can say. You take those points and you be happy against the best defense in the league. When our defense had a chance to stop the Seahawks on 3rd-and-4 late in the game with us down by only 7, I was extremely grateful Gruden had taken the points. It was the smart thing to do.

Loved DeSean Jackson. If not for him, this game would have been a blowout. And this was against a good defense... I thought he disappeared against good defenses? <sarc>

Morris fumbles more than a lot of backs, but he's still young. In AP's first three years, he fumbled a total of 19 times. Morris has a ways to go to reach that.

Pierre, Pierre...

On to Arizona. We've been competitive in every loss so far except New York, and that was partially at least due to the injuries. Our depth is better than last year, but the injuries have killed us. I'm guessing we'll be really close to full health against the Cardinals. Definitely a winnable game.

[skinsguy]

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

Well there's a double standard cause one guy has been healthy in his three seasons and one hasn't. For the most part Wilson protects himself. If Wilson starts getting hurt then it's another story.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

Hasnt RG3 missed significant time twice already in less than 3 years? Once avoiding a hit and once being hit. I dont see a double standard. I see the definition of injury prone QB. Dude needs to play smart and undercontrol, RG3 needs to take that away from RW game.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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Well there's a double standard cause one guy has been healthy in his three seasons and one hasn't. For the most part Wilson protects himself. If Wilson starts getting hurt then it's another story.

With the hits that Wilson started taking last night, it's possible.

[saden1]

This sums up the night!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzXKg9oCAAE0A_R.jpg

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

I'm sure this has been observed before
No Team Can Beat the Draft | FiveThirtyEight
The big thing it seems is accruing draft picks.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hasnt RG3 missed significant time twice already in less than 3 years? Once avoiding a hit and once being hit. I dont see a double standard. I see the definition of injury prone QB. Dude needs to play smart and undercontrol, RG3 needs to take that away from RW game.

There's no difference between Wilson's game and RGIII's. Both place themselves in danger of getting rocked. Wilson got rocked quite a few times in last night's game. The only difference is that Wilson does a better job of sliding than RGIII. Something in which seems like it was corrected over the offseason by Griffin. Once Wilson starts getting hurt, you guys will see they're mirror images of each other.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hasnt RG3 missed significant time twice already in less than 3 years? Once avoiding a hit and once being hit. I dont see a double standard. I see the definition of injury prone QB. Dude needs to play smart and undercontrol, RG3 needs to take that away from RW game.

Technically no, unless you consider 6(?) quarters of football significant time in his rookie year. He missed very little of the Ravens game, the entire Browns game and very little of the Seattle playoff game. He then missed an offseason, training camp and the preseason, when he was asking to play, so really, this is the first time he's missed "significant" time.

Sure, the offseason after year 1 should have been great for his development and, instead, he was rehabbing. However, those aren't games, so saying he's missed significant time twice is unfair. He HAS sustained 2 major injuries in his 3 years, however, and honestly, most of the rest of this post is arguing semantics, but I really think saying "he's missed significant time twice in 3 years" as though he's missed a bunch of starts is incorrect. He's only missing significant time now.