Around the League: WEEK 1 Baby!

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

True, unfortunately the Skins are closer to the likes of Cleveland, Oakland and Buffalo than perennial playoff contenders like GB, Seattle, and NE. Sad but true.

Im not gonna start today, but that's just a pestimistic view and not exactly true.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im not gonna start today, but that's just a pestimistic view and not exactly true.

Some people around here love pessimism.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Some people around here love pessimism.

If Wilson has the same knee injury, Seattle doesnt win the superbowl last year and the fans all over the country would be questioning why cant Seattle get it done.

They are always circumstances, but to make a blanket statement such as franchises going in the opposite direction and then to follow that up with Buffalo, Cleveland and Raiders level of Skins is just garbage.

[over the mountain]

i am pumped up. got the butterfly flutters in the heart going. im ready to run through a brick wall right now. ... i need to cut down on the coffee.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im not gonna start today, but that's just a pestimistic view and not exactly true.

In the last 5 seasons:
Buff has 0 winning seasons.
Clev has 0 winning seasons
Oakland has 0 winning seasons but did finish 8-8 twice in that 5 years.
The Skins have 1 winning season.

Unfortunately this is the sad truth.

[over the mountain]

1 glorious, historic, record breaking, trend setting winning season with a once in a lifetime athletic talent that is now fully healthy and ready to unload wads of awesome all over the field.

strap up fellas, we goin' for a ride this year

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

In the last 5 seasons:
Buff has 0 winning seasons.
Clev has 0 winning seasons
Oakland has 0 winning seasons but did finish 8-8 twice in that 5 years.
The Skins have 1 winning season.

Unfortunately this is the sad truth.

the position of the franchise is much greater than those programs. Anyone of those teams would gladly trade out their teams and coaching staffs for ours. 1 winning season was a division championship just 2 years ago.

U just cant bottomline it and say they are equals

[mredskins]

Hate to agree with Irish but he is right, this franchise has been bad for many years. Too many and most people outside of our fan base lump us with the CLE, BUF, OAK of the world.

Sad but true folks.

[MTK]

Knowing plenty of long suffering Bills fans, and a Browns fan, they would switch places with just about anyone.

Anyway, it's not worth getting sucked into the negativity. Some people definitely revel in it and like to call it "reality".

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

the position of the franchise is much greater than those programs. Anyone of those teams would gladly trade out their teams and coaching staffs for ours. 1 winning season was a division championship just 2 years ago.

U just cant bottomline it and say they are equals

Equals? I didnt say that and I do think the Skins are a little better off than Clev or Buffalo. But that sad fact of the matter is that in 4 of the last 5 years the Skins are bottom dwellers just like the teams I mentioned. Heck, just the fact that we can even have this discussion means that its more true than not.

[irish]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Hate to agree with Irish but he is right, this franchise has been bad for many years. Too many and most people outside of our fan base lump us with the CLE, BUF, OAK of the world.

Sad but true folks.

You are correct. I talk to friends outside the Skins fan base and they see the Skins as loser franchise. When I travel for work and talk to people in bars and mention I like the Skins they laugh, pat me on the back and ask why. Some of the outsiders started to change their tune in 2012 but when you ask them about 2012 now they are more inclined to think it was a fluke than the start of a turn around.

Redskins reality is a tough pill to swallow, especially for many on this site who live in fantasyland about the Skins.

[MTK]

Nobody is saying the Skins are world beaters or a model franchise, but lumping them in with teams that have never been to a SB or haven't sniffed the playoffs in a decade is going a little overboard.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

You are correct. I talk to friends outside the Skins fan base and they see the Skins as loser franchise. When I travel for work and talk to people in bars and mention I like the Skins they laugh, pat me on the back and ask why. Some of the outsiders started to change their tune in 2012 but when you ask them about 2012 now they are more inclined to think it was a fluke than the start of a turn around.

Redskins reality is a tough pill to swallow, especially for many on this site who live in fantasyland about the Skins.

Why give a damn what fans of other teams think of our team? I don't.

I think we've improved over last season and we are more likely to look like the playoff team of 2012 than we are to resemble the disaster of 2013. When we go to the playoffs this season, you'll be able to point out to the people you meet that we made the playoffs in two out of the last three seasons, which makes us winners in my book.

BTW, even in the Gibbs I era, I met people who would swear that we wouldn't go anywhere in the playoffs. We've never gotten the respect we've deserved, so don't expect that to change.

Just stay positive and you will soon be rewarded for your faithfulness.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Nobody is saying the Skins are world beaters or a model franchise, but lumping them in with teams that have never been to a SB or haven't sniffed the playoffs in a decade is going a little overboard.

Since 2000:
Clev has 1 playoff appearance.
Skins have 3 playoff appearances
Oak has 3 playoff appearances including a Super Bowl loss.

Lets not get carried away with who and who isnt sniffing playoffs and Super Bowls in over a decade.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Knowing plenty of long suffering Bills fans, and a Browns fan, they would switch places with just about anyone.

Anyway, it's not worth getting sucked into the negativity. Some people definitely revel in it and like to call it "reality".

Since the 92 season (22 years).

Playoff Births

skins 5
Buf 6
CLE 2
Oak 4

Hmm we seem to be on Par.

This doesn't mean I don't love my team we are just a crappy franchise in say the last 22 years.