Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

SUNRA, I know that your were one of Brunell's biggest fans last year. I also recall that you were one of the last people to call for Brunell's benching and defended him basically until the week he got yanked. Is that in any way playing into your assessment of Ramsey and Brunell?

he's also totally hated ramsey for a long time, so that might play into it as well

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

You must admit, this is not the same Brunell from 2004. This guy was not sacked against a blitzing defense that knocked a younger guy out of the game. No INTs. No fumbles. And Portis had over 100yds. I mean this is the way its going to be in some games.

he was sacked, maybe you missed it...

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.

his velocity's been better? I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. I know you like brunell, if you think he's playing better or whatever that's cool, but he never threw deep in preseason, so i don't know how you can say he has more velocity... also last year, brunell had 7tds 6 ints, ramsey was 10 and 11, those ratios are NOT that different, so i'm not buying that personally.

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

33 TD'S, 29 INTS... That's tangible to be in the NFL? Not even NFL Europe.

look at bledsoe or plummer, you may not like it, but it definately is. brunell was 7 and 6 last season, so i think that arguement has no merit.

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

So Ramsey gets one, two, three, (and so on) chances but Brunell gets just one?

one chance? he had 9 god awful wretched weeks last year, that's NOT one chance.

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I don't know. I just don't get why every one thinks Brunell starting is a sign of the apocalypse

um, re: brunell sucks, watch last year's games :/

DirtBagZ · 09-13-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

This sounds like the same baby tune he cried when Brunell came aboard last year. I want to be traded if I'm not the starter. Some say Gibbs does not like him, well maybe that's one of the reasons why. This guy really has an inflated oponion of himself and for the life of me I cannot understand why. He has done nothing, and proved nothing in the NFL and he's demanding a trade, (unbelievable) He may be lucky if anyone will want to trade for him. Maybe someone who wants a crybaby.

I would love to see how you would react at your job, if your boss basically brought someone in, who no matter how inept they were did your job and got your salary and you were demoted to basically making coffee and loading up the copier. How long would you stick around, knowing you would NEVER have any chance at promotional oppurtunity or a fair shake at getting your job back?

I think you would be asking for a "trade" that is another job. So get off Ramsey's back and stop calling him a baby, no one would put up with the type of treatment that he has put up with if at was at there workplace.

If you are a Brunell fan enjoy it...may he lead the team to victory. Ramsey is on the bench so no reason to rip him anymore. By the same token if Brunell puts up less than a 100 yards passing in Big-D and the Cowboys stomp the Skins I don't want to hear any bitching from the Brunell bandwagon crowd, you've got your guy behind center so deal with it.

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PIG SKIN

At least he gets up after getting hit again and again and doesn't whine about it.

It's laughable that at 20 years old you can make that comment.

its laughable that at your age you're so horribly immature.

Hog1 · 09-13-2005, 08:14 AM

Many, Many QB's have been benched for substandard play (including Joe Theisman). If this is how he handles life challenges....................so be it, his choice. Gibbs record and career are what they are. Did we see Brunell react this way when Ramsey got the starter job? I will be sorry to see him go as he has great potential. Fot the moment, he gives no indication of cementing himself in a starters role. Sadly it can be said for many other QB's that never reached their full potential, like, Jeff George.

irish · 09-13-2005, 08:16 AM

I feel bad for PR because he got stuck in a situation where he was never wanted from the beginning. OBC did not want him and neither did Gibbs. Hopefully PR will get traded somewhere where he can try to revive his career.

Hog1 · 09-13-2005, 08:23 AM

I don't think it's a matter of Gibbs "not wanting" him. It's not a personal thing. I believe early on, Gibb's saw something in him that made him think he "did not have it". So far he has been correct. I'm a big Ramsey supporter, but even I have to say in the heat of battle, his response is ridiculous (not the first time). He is making a huge mistake. Also, I doubt if Gibbs makes this decision without consulting his coaching staff who I assume are at the least, mostly (if not totally) in agreement.

That Guy · 09-13-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Many, Many QB's have been benched for substandard play (including Joe Theisman). If this is how he handles life challenges....................so be it, his choice. Gibbs record and career are what they are. Did we see Brunell react this way when Ramsey got the starter job? I will be sorry to see him go as he has great potential. Fot the moment, he gives no indication of cementing himself in a starters role. Sadly it can be said for many other QB's that never reached their full potential, like, Jeff George.

well, ramsey's contract is for 5mill and brunells is for 42mill, so that might be part of him not complaining

kingerock · 09-13-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

By the way, we're leading in our division in week one. Philly just lost. 14-10. Lets go Skins its our year.

That's the bottom line... we have a jump on Philly!!!

Joe Knows... · 09-13-2005, 09:32 AM

You know guys, all of this panic is for nothing. Because I saw it strait from the hosses mouth that he did NOT say he wants to be traded. I saw it on Comcast Sportrise that he had said on the Monday Night Redskins show they have, (at that fancy cafe) where he was a guest, that he did not say that.

This seems to be all the work of his agent again. Who never bothered to speak to Patrick about it. I think his agent is too worried about getting a pay off and for that to happen, Ramsey needs to be on the field performing.

I also just watched the Press Conference on Redskins.com TV. Coach Gibbs made some very interesting comments. One of them was when he drew comparisons from when Mark Rypien was first comming up. How he sat on the IR for 2 years then when he got his chance he threw 9 INTs in 8 games. Coach said they kept trying to instill it into Ryp that he can't allow those turn overs. And they worked with him on that in various drills and such. But the thing Gibbs said he thought got through to Rypien most was when he benched him after that and let some one else be the starter. And you know what happened after that when Mark Rypien got to play again. No more turn overs and hello to a Lombardi trophy! He was the league MVP!

So you never know, Ramsey just might not be done after all.

BleedBurgundy · 09-13-2005, 09:35 AM

Bring on Jason Campbell. Brunell will never lead us to the playoffs. Ramsey is not going to want to be here or ever feel secure in this town. Why waste time, let's get the rook some experience...

09-13-2005, 08:14 AM	#264
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Ramsey wants to be traded Many, Many QB's have been benched for substandard play (including Joe Theisman). If this is how he handles life challenges....................so be it, his choice. Gibbs record and career are what they are. Did we see Brunell react this way when Ramsey got the starter job? I will be sorry to see him go as he has great potential. Fot the moment, he gives no indication of cementing himself in a starters role. Sadly it can be said for many other QB's that never reached their full potential, like, Jeff George.

09-13-2005, 08:16 AM	#265
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Ramsey wants to be traded I feel bad for PR because he got stuck in a situation where he was never wanted from the beginning. OBC did not want him and neither did Gibbs. Hopefully PR will get traded somewhere where he can try to revive his career.

09-13-2005, 08:23 AM	#266
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Ramsey wants to be traded I don't think it's a matter of Gibbs "not wanting" him. It's not a personal thing. I believe early on, Gibb's saw something in him that made him think he "did not have it". So far he has been correct. I'm a big Ramsey supporter, but even I have to say in the heat of battle, his response is ridiculous (not the first time). He is making a huge mistake. Also, I doubt if Gibbs makes this decision without consulting his coaching staff who I assume are at the least, mostly (if not totally) in agreement.

09-13-2005, 09:32 AM	#269
Joe Knows... Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern Maryland Posts: 77	Re: Ramsey wants to be traded You know guys, all of this panic is for nothing. Because I saw it strait from the hosses mouth that he did NOT say he wants to be traded. I saw it on Comcast Sportrise that he had said on the Monday Night Redskins show they have, (at that fancy cafe) where he was a guest, that he did not say that. This seems to be all the work of his agent again. Who never bothered to speak to Patrick about it. I think his agent is too worried about getting a pay off and for that to happen, Ramsey needs to be on the field performing. I also just watched the Press Conference on Redskins.com TV. Coach Gibbs made some very interesting comments. One of them was when he drew comparisons from when Mark Rypien was first comming up. How he sat on the IR for 2 years then when he got his chance he threw 9 INTs in 8 games. Coach said they kept trying to instill it into Ryp that he can't allow those turn overs. And they worked with him on that in various drills and such. But the thing Gibbs said he thought got through to Rypien most was when he benched him after that and let some one else be the starter. And you know what happened after that when Mark Rypien got to play again. No more turn overs and hello to a Lombardi trophy! He was the league MVP! So you never know, Ramsey just might not be done after all.

09-13-2005, 09:35 AM	#270
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Ramsey wants to be traded Bring on Jason Campbell. Brunell will never lead us to the playoffs. Ramsey is not going to want to be here or ever feel secure in this town. Why waste time, let's get the rook some experience...

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