Why not Fred Davis for Gaither?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

And what would make someone think that Gaither would fit here very well?

He seems to be in the Dockery and M. Williams mold.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Let me get this right you want to trade a guy Davis who likes to play football looks like he as alot of potential for Gaither a guy who's rumored to have bad work habits & his heart really isn't in football anymore. Next year Gaither will be a free agent anyway & if Baltimore are looking to trade him, there's a fair chance they will cut him if there are no takers.

Let me get this right..this is the Fred Davis plummeted in the draft for poor work habits then SLEPT through his first practice. Im glad hes showing potential but he is entering his third season.
I will always hate that we drafted him right before desean jackson, who is a star.
No way at all that gaither gets cut.

[skinsfan69]

why make a trade for a guy who is lazy and doesn't want to work? let's just draft our own LT and mold the guy.

[Daseal]

Carnage,

Besides that first mishap (and I know you've never accidentally over-slept) Fred Davis has done nothing but work, and work hard. Personally, I'd rather trade Cooley. I love the dude, but he's slightly older and would bring more value to the table. If Shanahan will actually use a lot of two TE sets, both as receivers, great. Keep both of them and look for mismatches. Otherwise, we need to trade one to build other, weaker, areas of our team.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

I really don't see how it would be a good idea to lose Cooley OR Davis. Assuming Cooley is 100%, under Shannahan's offense, he's a probowler! As for Davis, I would argue that he's AS physicaly gifted, but not MORE physicaly gifted than Cooley, but Cooley DEFINATELY has better hands in the passing game. Though Davis had fewer drops than the 2nd time rookies (Thomas & Kelly) he wasn't as sure handed as Cooley.

That being said, without him, we'd have had fewer wins in Cooley's absense. Why NOT have two great TE's!?!?

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Carnage

Let me get this right..this is the Fred Davis plummeted in the draft for poor work habits then SLEPT through his first practice. Im glad hes showing potential but he is entering his third season.
I will always hate that we drafted him right before desean jackson, who is a star.
No way at all that gaither gets cut.

GAITHER'S HEART ISN'T IN FOOTBALL so we should trade for him, FD messed up his first year at the begining & looked good last year you must be related to VC. :smashfrea

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

If I HAD to trade, i guess I'd trade Cooley and hope Fred's hands develope. That's only because i think we can get more with Cooley as bait. But i don't want to trade Cooley! he's too good! he's not old for a TE, hes in his prime and if anyone is to reap the benefits, it should be US!

[KI Skins Fan]

From what I have read in the Baltimore Sun, the Ravens might be willing move Gaither because they are fed up with his poor work ethic. So, if the Redskins are thinking that they might be able to pick up two talented young OT's by drafting Okung and trading for Gaither, they need to ask themselves if they want to try to reform Gaither.

Also, is it better to have two talented TE's who are very similar players or two talented young OT's? I would say that it is definitely much better for the team to have the two good young OT's.

Would the Ravens accept a Davis or Cooley for Gaither trade? I doubt it because they already have a good, if declining, TE in Todd Heap and now they have Anquan Boldin who can give them some of the same capabilities that Davis or Cooley would bring.

My bottom line on the whole idea of trading for Gaither is that I would take the risk and even overpay (in trade value) for him if we could put something together that would convince the Ravens to trade him. Then I would draft Okung or another top OT who has the potential to play on the left side. Gaither would start out playing LT and the rookie would play RT. Then , down the road, the Skins would determine whether or not to switch the two. Either way, we would have the critical OLT position covered.

[NYCskinfan82]

If we get Gaither GOOD i just don't think we should trade a good player for a player who's heart isn't in it.

[SouperMeister]

Teams don't trade solid young left tackles for tight ends. Sounds great on paper, but Baltimore would never do it.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Carnage

Let me get this right..this is the Fred Davis plummeted in the draft for poor work habits then SLEPT through his first practice. Im glad hes showing potential but he is entering his third season.
I will always hate that we drafted him right before desean jackson, who is a star.
No way at all that gaither gets cut.

For that matter, Vinny also drafted Malcolm Kelly when Ray Rice was there for the taking. Consider that he had taken Devin Thomas and Fred Davis earlier in the round. Ray Rice would look pretty good in B&G today.

[Dirtbag59]

Gaither is a stoner. Not the worst thing in the world but for someone rumored to have two strikes against him I feel pretty good changing my mind about him.

[The Goat]

No on Gaither. We're drafting Okung and trading some players for another pick or two. I think the best case scenario is packaging Cooley/JC together somehow because we'll get more than each could bring individually.

[TheBackupKicker]

its funny that some of you are acting like trading cooley is a given

cooley and davis are untradable!

[TheBackupKicker]

Originally Posted by Carnage

Let me get this right..this is the Fred Davis plummeted in the draft for poor work habits then SLEPT through his first practice. Im glad hes showing potential but he is entering his third season.
I will always hate that we drafted him right before desean jackson, who is a star.
No way at all that gaither gets cut.

if the skins drafted jackson he would of did shit cuz our QB was JC

McNabb made jackson a star